NSW AAGPS 2020

[SkyBlue]

This depends on whether your school assessment is based on 1st XV or school depth or number of teams. Plus I think your premise that Shore Rugby is falling down to the level of Grammar and High is way off the mark.

Yes. I definitely should have clarified. This would be in the 1xv and possibly 2xv. Whilst CAS rugby is definitely improving, it's definitely not there yet to compete with the GPS across all levels

 

[brumbiesrugby]

No

Can’t see this ever happening in this format, too many traditions.

What is more possible is something which relies on the existing Associations playing cross association fixtures. In that way games against your own association would preserve history of those fixtures games against other association would count towards an overall title.

The problem is that neither association is likely to support an outcome where The result is an overall title which could be seen to be superior to their own individual one.

These schools do tradition. Not innovation. They don’t see themselves as owing anything to the broader game or it’s history, that is just not it’s constituency.

So as much as many people would like to see this because there would a number of better more competitive fixtures in the mix, it’s only likely to happen if another Firsts team gets forced into 3rd XV football to join Grammar and High such that the pool of fixtures just gets less and less.

That’s the only way I can see this happening.

 

[SkyBlue]

Shore 16s ran up 28 points in a victory over Joeys and defeated Newington a couple of weeks ago who just put 50 on Kings. Thanks but no thanks.

I should have clarified. This would be a 1XV competition, the CAS are improving but not enough to compete at all levels just yet.

 

[Up the Guts]

Look it's clear there is a stigma around CAS rugby, there is a belief that CAS rugby is a joke amongst GPS schools and I would know as I myself attended a GPS school. However, I have been involved in both and I can assure you, the rugby program at Barker and at Waverley trumps that of any GPS school other than St Josephs. It's this "elitism" that will ultimately ruin school boy rugby. The GPS is not as dominant as it once was. It is in the best interest of rugby union in Australia to combine these competitions.

This is why:

 

[Up the Guts]

I should have clarified. This would be a 1XV competition, the CAS are improving but not enough to compete at all levels just yet.

And my point is that in a year or so Shore should be title favourites.

 

[brumbiesrugby]

Happy to be corrected but think Riverview won just 3 games yesterday at home and only 1 (16As) was a like for like fixture. Phenomenal day for the Cerise.

 

[SkyBlue]

This is why:

What does this have to do with anything

 

[SkyBlue]

And my point is that in a year or so Shore should be title favourites.

I'll believe that when I see it

 

[Up the Guts]

What does this have to do with anything

Tradition. It’s the basis for most institutions, like it or not. We have the CAS vs GPS fixtures every year where the associations can test themselves against each other as well as trial games. The competitions will remain seperate as they always have.

 

[Joker]

Happy to be corrected but think Riverview won just 3 games yesterday at home and only 1 (16As) was a like for like fixture. Phenomenal day for the Cerise.

 

[SkyBlue]

Looks like we have a schoolboy in here trying to stir up trouble. Let’s not fall into his trap

Neither of those things are true Metre Eater, not at all trying to stir trouble. However, this has been a rumour circulating for quite a while. I believe the ARU actually approached both the GPS and CAS about this concept about 3 seasons ago but it was rejected by all of the GPS schools. I honestly just believe that such a format would be beneficial for all parties involved. Just frustrated that some of the GPS schools are prioritising tradition over extracting the best quality rugby out of our schoolboys.

 

[Joker]

I should have clarified. This would be a 1XV competition, the CAS are improving but not enough to compete at all levels just yet.

NO again.

 

[SkyBlue]

NO again.

Joker do you have anything constructive to say or not

 

[Quick Hands]

Joker do you have anything constructive to say or not

Your post comes up every year. How about go and start a new thread for that discussion and leave us to discuss the rugby.

You've been answered by quite a few people and just because you don't like the answer you start insulting people.

 

[Quick Hands]

Neither of those things are true Metre Eater, not at all trying to stir trouble. However, this has been a rumour circulating for quite a while. I believe the ARU actually approached both the GPS and CAS about this concept about 3 seasons ago but it was rejected by all of the GPS schools. I honestly just believe that such a format would be beneficial for all parties involved. Just frustrated that some of the GPS schools are prioritising tradition over extracting the best quality rugby out of our schoolboys.

If the ARU were serious about promoting youth rugby they'd invest in junior club based structures of their own instead of trying to piggy back off schools.

You're free to believe whatever you want but this thread is for GPS rugby. Start a new thread if you want to discuss some sort of other competition.

 

[Quick Hands]

Strong 16's age group Quickie.
BTW. Did you capture the photo that was being taken to commemorate the occasion?
Love to see it.

Very strong age group, with the equivalent of one full team playing in various opens teams. The arrival of AFL has unfortunately impacted on the depth of teams which went down to 13Gs in 13s.

 

[SkyBlue]

Your post comes up every year. How about go and start a new thread for that discussion and leave us to discuss the rugby.

You've been answered by quite a few people and just because you don't like the answer you start insulting people.

I've actually never posed on a GPS forum before, I also was not intending to stir trouble, nor did I insult anyone.

I'm sorry if you were offended by my comments, but nothing I said was with any malice intent.

 

[Ace Ventura]

I should have clarified. This would be a 1XV competition, the CAS are improving but not enough to compete at all levels just yet.

and therein lies part of the problem, Goosie. No GPS school is likely to agree to a system where the 1st XV plays in one competition in some venue and other teams play in different competitions at different venues, perhaps several such. Joeys fields 45 teams on any given Saturday (and is therefore probably the largest rugby club in Australia) and the logistics of managing meals, transport, security, staff support (physio, medical etc) is mind-boggling when only one or at the most two opposition venues are involved. Other schools in both the GPS and CAS systems would be similar. To have multiple competitions and multiple venues for individual schools magnifies this issue exponentially to the point of being unviable.

Can't see it happening.

 

[Scrumcap]

Very strong age group, with the equivalent of one full team playing in various opens teams. The arrival of AFL has unfortunately impacted on the depth of teams which went down to 13Gs in 13s.

QH, how many U16s in 1st? From what I know and saw on Cluch four? 5,9,14, and 15? A number of U17s as well, so quite a young team.

 

[Joker]

Joker do you have anything constructive to say or not

Still, no