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New Zealand Rugby Team Watch

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
Not surprised, had completely dropped off in form after his breakout season with the Highlanders. Can't help but feel it was attitude that held him back, as clearly he wasn't rated by Tony Brown, who preffered Mitch Hunt. Don't think he was ever likely to be in the AB frame again, and best for Chiefs to start developing Jacomb.
Definitley no surprise there. For all his promise he just seemed to hit his peak very early, and as you point out Jacomb has been developed by Chiefs and is honestly abetter 10 I believe. Not quite sure what it is with Ioane, he is a good player, shows flashes at times, but hasn't quite got that last bit to be a top player here. All the best to him anyway, hope it goes well.
 

waiopehu oldboy

George Smith (75)
While I agree Ioane is unlikely to be in the AB frame anytime soon & wish him well it's still an erosion of depth in a position we're not particularly strong in right now.
 

WoodysRFC

Chris McKivat (8)
While I agree Ioane is unlikely to be in the AB frame anytime soon & wish him well it's still an erosion of depth in a position we're not particularly strong in right now.
Yes, and no, I think we've an incredibly talented next crop coming through (Jacomb, Cashmore, Millar, Sullivan, Godfrey, Faleafaga to name a few) who are all between that 20 - 25 age bracket, I'd imagine Ioane was only ever going to occupy that 10 / 15 bench slot, where Jacomb would be preferred at 10 going forward. I think with McKenzie, Plummer, Cameron, Perofeta, and Barrett as older 10s, we've got the players who can safeguard that next crop of 10s coming through, which I think is one of the best groups I've seen in years. Certainly better than the 2010s which seemed to cough up a handful of gems, and a lot of journeymen.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
Yep I agree, like the look of the ones we got coming through, even if I do agree we I prefer players stay for depth of super teams in general.
 

KiwiM

Arch Winning (36)
I get the sense Josh Ioane wasn't the most disciplined professional. He had the talent to be a regular AB.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
Also intereted to read that MP (Moana Pasifika) have just picked up a major sponsor, Pasifika Medical Assoc, who seems have brought into MP (Moana Pasifika) . Makes for interesting times, seems rumours that Vaea Fifita maybe talking of joining as a player too. All good positive news for mine!
 

waiopehu oldboy

George Smith (75)
I think a signing like this makes it the other way around...

@Ignoto on the MP (Moana Pasifika) Franchise thread:

"What about this actually makes the narrative around NZRU again taking advantage of the PI's again?

"The whole point of introducing both the Fijian and Moana teams was to give a pathway for their players tohave careers this side of the world.

"By MP (Moana Pasifika) (Moana Pasifika) still being based in Auckland and allowing Ardie to play for them and be picked for the All Blacks demonstrates, MP (Moana Pasifika) (Moana Pasifika) is just another NZ team.

"If Ardie can play for Moana and still eb picked, then DMac can play for the Tahs and still be picked."
 

Wilson

Phil Kearns (64)
@Ignoto on the MP (Moana Pasifika) (Moana Pasifika) Franchise thread:

"What about this actually makes the narrative around NZRU again taking advantage of the PI's again?

"The whole point of introducing both the Fijian and Moana teams was to give a pathway for their players tohave careers this side of the world.

"By MP (Moana Pasifika) (Moana Pasifika) (Moana Pasifika) still being based in Auckland and allowing Ardie to play for them and be picked for the All Blacks demonstrates, MP (Moana Pasifika) (Moana Pasifika) (Moana Pasifika) is just another NZ team.

"If Ardie can play for Moana and still eb picked, then DMac can play for the Tahs and still be picked."
Oh, I wasn't disagreeing that people would say it, just more stating that that's not what this is.

AB's capping players out of Moana or signing up the star players to NZ sides and then capping them definitely smacks of Moana as a feeder side, but established All Blacks (a literal world player of the year) signing with Moana is not that. The limited injection of senior players from Australia and New Zealand is what needs to be happening to help bring the side and younger players on. Ideally they would be reverting to their Samoan or Tongan heritage for test purposes as Leali'ifano and Kepu did, but realistically Ardie is a fair way off of that and it's more just an added bonus when it happens.
 

Dismal Pillock

Michael Lynagh (62)

All Blacks captain Scott Barrett has pre-emptive brain surgery, set to miss start of Rugby Championship


--NZ Herald--

In order to alleviate worries over the All Blacks captains predilection towards getting red carded during rugby football test matches, All Blacks captain Scott Barrett has had surgery on his brain, and is unlikely to feature in the opening rounds of the Rugby Championship next month.

"It was a very delicate operation using microscopic neurosurgery tools due to the astonishingly minute size of the patients brain" said lead surgeon Dr Z.Ero.

"I inserted a tiny little plaque in the patients prefrontal cortex, the area responsible for decision making. In miniscule comic sans font, the plaque has one tiny microscopic word printed on it; "DON'T". Just one word. Hopefully the patient heeds this warning as he's about to brainlessly clatter into red card territory during a very, very important All Blacks rugby football test match."

 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
AB squad for RC
Hookers: Asafo Aumua, Codie Taylor, George Bell.
Props: Ethan De Groot, Tyrel Lomax, Fletcher Newell, Pasilio Tosi, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Tamaiti Williams.


Locks: Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Darry.
Loose Forwards: Ethan Blackadder, Sam Cane, Samipeni Finau, Luke Jacobson, Dalton Papali’i, Ardie Savea, Wallace Sititi.
Halfbacks: Noah Hotham, TJ Perenara, Cortez Ratima. First five-eighths: Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie.
Midfielders: Jordie Barrett, David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Anton Lienert-Brown, Billy Proctor.
Outside backs: Caleb Clarke, Will Jordan, Ruben Love, Stephen Perofeta, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a.
Injury cover: Josh Lord.

Happy to see Love there, and Lord as injury cover, but hope he still gets run for the Naki! Will enjoy the choking on dinners with Cane getting picked.
 

waiopehu oldboy

George Smith (75)
Caleb Clarke has re-signed but only for 2025. He turns 27 in March 2026, which tends to be the use-by date for an AB wing these days, so of course there's speculation wrt him heading overseas or to NRL but worth remembering his dad is heavily involved with Moana...

 

Linerunner2023

Watty Friend (18)
TJP has confirmed he's off to Japan at year-end:


Three-year contract so that's presumably the end of his pro career.
Interesting potentially had 2-3 years of the ABs 9 and guide the younger roigard and ratima over the next year or two and get some starting games instead of being behind smith
But has played a lot and deserves a solid pay check in Japan
 
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