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Geoff Shaw (53)
But he did start? - started every game he played. Missed other games through suspension
I know... that's why I said he was an average starting winger. I'm happy to believe he was better then this if more learned people tell me so.
What I mean when I said I used exaggeration was that perhaps he was slightly better then average but he was never a household name.
Lote Tuqiri played league for Fiji before he became a Wallaby, so did Jarryd Hayne League's supposed no.1 player. I don't that's much to go by. If he'd continued with League he'd be one of the most sought after wingers and would have represented NZ in tests thereafter.
Yes, I'm not saying an athlete can't/won't improve but considering the point he was at in league (he had never gotten past the wider NZ training squad), it's pretty amazing to see where he is instantly at in Union.
Really, all I was saying is he'd progressed surprisingly fast. I'm really surprised this has become a talking point.