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[Adam84]

clickbait/manager drumming up buisness.... he is going to be a $1million plus player in NRL

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Sorry, add 2 teams to it.

1 year deal with the Warriors for 1.2m then realise fuck i'll never win here so I may as well go play for PNG for 2m tax free as they need a marquee and he'll be turning 26. Earn 2.5m by the end of his contract just as the side is winding up.

 

[LevitatingSocks]

Sorry, add 2 teams to it.

1 year deal with the Warriors for 1.2m then realise fuck i'll never win here so I may as well go play for PNG for 2m tax free as they need a marquee and he'll be turning 26. Earn 2.5m by the end of his contract just as the side is winding up.

Port Moresby is a different level of dodgy though even if you're in a gated compound with security most of the time. That entire venture has an expiration date on it.

Half the NRL can't stay out of misadventure in Australia, which is probably one of the safest countries in the world.

 

[Adam84]

The players who will go the PNG to be paid as $1million players, wont be the $1million players

 

[Wilson]

Worth noting there's also a tax deal done for players and staff of that PNG team that will mean the salaries go a lot further.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

They'll get enough interest from young mid level players who will realise the 400k salary for PNG is worth it for 4 years. FIFO footy players. Issue will be getting good coaches and administration as well as the long term marquees who will always make the big bucks at the Roosters, Broncos, Storm.

First year will have some old former rep players lob up for a nice golden handshake season.

 

[Adam84]

there will be a few weasely managers who convince unsuspecting players to sign big contracts in PNG without a concept of what it's like to live there..

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

I think I could tough it out if they set it up right like they say they will....

If offered a 2 year deal with player options for good money with no tax as a bloke in your early 20s... Behave for a couple of years and you can give yourself a financial platform for life.

The risk is huge though and it will take the right minded players to cope with living in a compound. Plenty of young people in the ADF get conditions imposed on them for a lot less money. Still run amok though... Interested to see how it plays out.

I think it'll be good coaching that's a huge issue. These are people usually a bit older with families a bit older. I wouldn't want to take kids aged 10-18 there

 

[Derpus]

PNG seems like it will have all the issues the Force have had but on steroids.

 

[LevitatingSocks]

PNG seems like it will have all the issues the Force have had but on steroids.

and the crazy part is that Perth is basically Brisbane with better urban planing and world class beaches, it's just far from any other major cities.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

PNG seems like it will have all the issues the Force have had but on steroids.

It's NRL so of course there'll be steroids involved...

 

[PhilClinton]

Is it confirmed the players will be forced to live in PNG? I have heard about possible Aussie based training facilities to avoid the safety issue.

Would still play all the games and ‘live’ there but the reality is they’ll spend 70% of the time in Australia. Which further shows just how much of a farce the team will be. I’m not sure how much of that is true or will ever officially be mentioned as I believe the tax incentives for players would require them to at least be seen as perm relocating to PNG.

 

[PhilClinton]

I think it'll be good coaching that's a huge issue. These are people usually a bit older with families a bit older. I wouldn't want to take kids aged 10-18 there

You’d be surprised how many NRL coaches/assists relocate solo and have paid travel home included in their contracts.

Latest one I know of is Trent Barrett who has solo moved to Brisbane but gets clearance for quite frequent visits back to his family.

As I mentioned in my other post, there is also a consideration that players and coaches may not be based in PNG, although would be for optics, from what I’ve heard.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

You also hear how hard it is though and they leave at the first opportunity to get back to their home town. Brad Arthur was talking about last week while he's head coach at Leeds in the Super League.

Any good side usually has consistent and long term coaching. Anything more than 4 years should be considered long term these days. You'll struggle in PNG. If a young coach goes and does well I can't see them staying when a job pops up back in Aus. Sucks to be the side that is continually having to pick up the Barrett, Griffin types or take a swing on a rookie who could be shit or good and you'll lose them.

 

[Adam84]

Is it confirmed the players will be forced to live in PNG? I have heard about possible Aussie based training facilities to avoid the safety issue.

Would still play all the games and ‘live’ there but the reality is they’ll spend 70% of the time in Australia. Which further shows just how much of a farce the team will be. I’m not sure how much of that is true or will ever officially be mentioned as I believe the tax incentives for players would require them to at least be seen as perm relocating to PNG.

would make a mockery of the whole situation if the team were only to FIFO for the games.

NRL season is 8 months long for the season itself not including pre-season, you need the group training as a collective together in pre-season so unless they plan to host pre-season in a different city in Australia then players will be based in PNG for long stretches. If they intend to have players training in disaggregated groups across Australia before concentrating for the season, well that's going to put them behind other teams and be a shitfight also.

 

[Wilson]

You also hear how hard it is though and they leave at the first opportunity to get back to their home town. Brad Arthur was talking about last week while he's head coach at Leeds in the Super League.

Any good side usually has consistent and long term coaching. Anything more than 4 years should be considered long term these days. You'll struggle in PNG. If a young coach goes and does well I can't see them staying when a job pops up back in Aus. Sucks to be the side that is continually having to pick up the Barrett, Griffin types or take a swing on a rookie who could be shit or good and you'll lose them.

Not confirmed that they'll be "forced", but the intent is definitely for them to be based there:

PNG has also committed to building safe, world-class accommodation for players and officials and implementing tax incentives to boost the competitiveness of the franchise. Albanese described the deal as “tax free status” for Aussie players - which may have major impacts in a league governed by a salary cap, with PNG-based Australians able to pocket their entire gross wage.

PNG team to join NRL in $600m agreement as V’landys confirms huge player incentive

PNG team to join NRL in $600m agreement as V’landys (the horse racing guy) confirms huge player incentive

www.foxsports.com.au

That tax free status is the big part of it, it could only be available if they were based in PNG (it's PNG waiving the tax, not Australia).

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Yeah we've all read that so I'm sure as shit every coach, player and manager is across it.

When coaches already fall outside the salary cap they can be paid whatever a Club wants to. When coaches are only after comps (and pay) if PNG aren't going to be in the top 4 your only a season from being sacked. The NRL has introduced it's version of Catalan. Just going to be some average locals and then once were good players getting a cheque.

 

[Wilson]

Yeah we've all read that so I'm sure as shit every coach, player and manager is across it.

When coaches already fall outside the salary cap they can be paid whatever a Club wants to. When coaches are only after comps (and pay) if PNG aren't going to be in the top 4 your only a season from being sacked. The NRL has introduced it's version of Catalan. Just going to be some average locals and then once were good players getting a cheque.

I think there's a lot more room to unearth some local superstars (or bring a few established PNG stars back over) then there ever has been for Catalan. In that respect it has the potential to be (significantly) more successful than the Drua, though it will take time to get those systems in place.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Maybe. I'm not sure we will see heaps more PNG players appear throughout the NRL because of this side. Expansion creates more jobs but the NRL seems to be finding all the new talent in Fiji lately which won't stop. Silktales who play in Jersey Flegg comp in NSW are a backrow and outside back factory.

What will be intresting is imagine the PNG side go really well for a couple years. The whinging that will start from other sides about the tax breaks.

 

[Wilson]

I think a big part of that Fiji talent pipeline is that it's piggy-backing off of structures that have been put in place by both rugby and league over the past decade or two. That infrastructure isn't there in PNG yet, but this move will be a big part of getting it up (both because the NRL will be keen on the pathways and because it's where the real payoff will come in from an aid funding perspective). There's a population of over 12 million to work with and they're every bit as league mad as any of the pacific nations are for rugby. There's definitely a long way to go still, but there's a lot of potential upside in that respect, orders of magnitude more than for a side like Catalans.