Kurtley Beale

[Train Without a Station]

Drew Mitchell is a massive supporter of anybody who is his mate. Would not read much into anything he says.

 

[Spieber]

We still don't know who had the chicken and who had the fish on the flight to Sao Paulo.

There's a lot more information to come out from this story.

Steve McCroskeyBill Pulver: Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

 

[Micheal]

Drew Mitchell is a massive supporter of anybody who is his mate. Would not read much into anything he says.

I agree he is, but supporting your mate isn't getting behind him when he's fucked up. Supporting a mate is telling him he's fucked up when he's fucked up, and I maintain that Drew / Giteau / AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) (presumably) et al. wouldn't have gotten behind KB (Kurtley Beale) if he was truly and undeniably in the wrong.

 

[Thinker]

For all the conspiracy theories here, the most obvious (and likely) is missing. Probably would be slander or such to mention it but think Eddie Jones and his time at the Reds (for those in the know). KB (Kurtley Beale) could have chipped about a potential issue here, would have caused issues one would think.

Or maybe it is just an incident involving a guy with a track record of problems with women and authority and he said something to such an extent that Ms Patston wouldn't or couldn't put up with it.

 

[Train Without a Station]

I agree he is, but supporting your mate isn't getting behind him when he's fucked up. Supporting a mate is telling him he's fucked up when he's fucked up, and I maintain that Drew / Giteau / AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) (presumably) et al. wouldn't have gotten behind KB (Kurtley Beale) if he was truly and undeniably in the wrong.

Let me re-word that then. Drew Mitchell is known for getting behind anybody who is his mate.

 

[Braveheart81]

[Dismal Pillock]

Bill Pulver and the ARU Integrity Unit settling in for a long night to get to the bottom of the issue.

When quizzed about the incident, Wallaby captain, Michael Hooper said he was too busy reading and didn't realise anything happened.

The ARU are looking to speak to this man who could hold the key to unlocking the details of the incident.

/Dismal Pillock

 

[Micheal]

Let me re-word that then. Drew Mitchell is known for getting behind anybody who is his mate.

Disagree.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Who'd have thought a workplace argument over a t-shirt would shake the world.
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This is the sequel - Revenge of the T-Shirt Argument. Wasn't a fairly important part of the Rebels "discussion" between KB (Kurtley Beale) and Gareth Delve to do with a T shirt? That shook the world, and rocked the boat when it happened.

In the finest traditions of the internet, we've managed to rack up 15 pages despite an almost complete absence of any facts.

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Facts aren't absent.

Summary of facts:
1. There was a discussion on the plane over the clothing items worn by a couple of the Wallabies.
2. One of those involved in the discussion has returned home to Australia slightly earlier than originally scheduled.
3. Another party to the discussion failked to be listed in the 23 man squad for the Test match against Los Pumas.
4. The ARU Integrity Unit (whatever and whomever that is) is investigating the circumstances surrounding Fact 2 and Fact 1.
5. The Coach has stated that there is no link between Fact 3, and Facts 2 and 1.
6. Airbus A340 planes have 6 Business class seats in each row.
7. It is a long way between Jo'Burg and Argentina.
8. There is a lot of pffaffing around with connections and transfers when flying between Cape Town and Buenos Aires.

 

[Scrubber2050]

and Chuck was disguised as a Steward

 

[Quick Hands]

This is the sequel - Revenge of the T-Shirt Argument. Wasn't a fairly important part of the Rebels "discussion" between KB (Kurtley Beale) and Gareth Delve to do with a T shirt? That shook the world, and rocked the boat when it happened.


Facts aren't absent.

Summary of facts:
1. There was a discussion on the plane over the clothing items worn by a couple of the Wallabies.
2. One of those involved in the discussion has returned home to Australia slightly earlier than originally scheduled.
3. Another party to the discussion failked to be listed in the 23 man squad for the Test match against Los Pumas.
4. The ARU Integrity Unit (whatever and whomever that is) is investigating the circumstances surrounding Fact 2 and Fact 1.
5. The Coach has stated that there is no link between Fact 3, and Facts 2 and 1.
6. Airbus A340 planes have 6 Business class seats in each row.
7. It is a long way between Jo'Burg and Argentina.
8. There is a lot of pffaffing around with connections and transfers when flying between Cape Town and Buenos Aires.

You obviously didn't appreciate the significance of the word "almost".

 

[drop kick]

That article has since been taken down because the qualification numbers and details were sent to the 'journalists' who posted a story designed to shift the blame to the (alleged) victim, as was the confirmation from the CMC that she had worked there (perish the thought that the wrong name was used on a LinkedIn profile!). Further, she was absolutely employed by the QRU in 2011.

Appalling attempt at a smear job and I expected better research by Guinness et al.

Cat can you please clarify what you've said above. I'm not arguing, just want to understand what is going on.

You are saying Patston worked for the QLD CMC (Crime and Misconduct Commission), yet on her linked-in profile she says she worked for the Australian Federal Misconduct Commission.

If she worked at the Qld CMC for 11 years isn't it a bit odd she didn't know the name of the organisation she worked for? How did she confuse a QLD organisation with a federal govt body?

If she just got the name wrong why didn't she amend her linked-in profile rather than take it down?

Are you saying she did complete those degrees? ("qualification numbers and details were sent"). If so did she do it under her maiden name? What was her maiden name?

Why do you think Guinness et al are attempting a smear job? Are they Kurtley's mates?

 

[Hugh Jarse]

^^^ Where is Ace Rugby Reporter Grumbles Growdon and what do his mates Radio, WIFI and The Wizard think about this?

 

[Spieber]

@DiPatston has some interesting followers on Twitter including some of us and one Kevin Rudd!

The more I read the more my pendulum is swinging towards Di who: [1] has been provided with character references by two of our more respected bethren; [2] does not have a track record of abusive behaviour; and [3] has, frankly, a pretty shitty job (CFO/COO/HR/laundry/bus driver etc).

 

[Lorenzo]

as wild as this thread was already, it got a lot wilder when someone tried to introduce a tweet by bloody Mitchell as substantive

 

[Brumby Runner]

Irrespective of whether she is qualified, her role is expanding too far, her role is blurry etc. I am thinking that it certainly sounds as if she has been asked to accept a lot of responsibility for a wide range of issues. Reportedly because Rob Edgerton was let go as manager due to budget constraints.

The performance and conduct of the Wallabies on tour is critically important to the ARU, I hope they have not been cutting costs in the wrong places.

Incident probably wouldn't have happened at all if Egerton had remained in the job and had accompanied the Wallabies on the trip. Just supposition of course.

 

[qwerty51]

^^^ Where is Ace Rugby Reporter Grumbles Growdon and what do his mates Radio, WIFI and The Wizard think about this?

Maybe Di is one of the aforementioned?

 

[Wilson]

Incident probably wouldn't have happened at all if Egerton had remained in the job and had accompanied the Wallabies on the trip. Just supposition of course.

I've never heard a bad word against Egerton, but he was in his role during one of the worst periods of discipline amongst the squad. Most admit standards had suffered terribly in camp wallaby, if that's the case shouldn't the standard bearer shoulder some of the blame?

 

[Braveheart81]

I've never heard a bad word against Egerton, but he was in his role during one of the worst periods of discipline amongst the squad. Most admit standards had suffered terribly in camp wallaby, if that's the case shouldn't the standard bearer shoulder some of the blame?

Maybe all the people who complain about players not putting their socks up should be pointing fingers at Egerton.

 

[Quick Hands]

as wild as this thread was already, it got a lot wilder when someone tried to introduce a tweet by bloody Mitchell as substantive

Hold on tight Lorenzo, I'm sure the ride will get a lot wilder as things develop.

 

[Micheal]

as wild as this thread was already, it got a lot wilder when someone tried to introduce a tweet by bloody Mitchell as substantive

I wasn't saying it was substantive at all, I was just suggesting that it shows that many of the player's may be on team-Beale, and if so, what does this mean about:

a) the chemistry of the playing group and the coaches
b) the severity of Beale's actions.

Mitchell, Giteau and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) have all spent a huge amount of time within the Wallaby camp, know countless people within the Wallaby camp and have all been widely respected and senior members within that camp at one stage. I highly doubt Mitchell would have read about the situation in the papers and fired the tweet off into cyberspace without some sort of investigative work himself (whether you agree with this or not is irrelevant). Just because they are all friendly with KB (Kurtley Beale) doesn't mean that their opinions shouldn't be considered or respected.

Having been called up on my use of tragedy earlier, here's a definition of substantive:

sub·stan·tive(s

b

st

n-t

v)
adj.
1. Substantial; considerable.
2. Independent in existence or function; not subordinate.
3. Not imaginary; actual; real.
4. Of or relating to the essence or substance; essential: substantive information.
5. Having a solid basis; firm.

By no means was I suggesting that Mitchell's tweet was substantive (that being: considerable) evidence that KB (Kurtley Beale) is innocent of all wrong doings. The argument that "Mitchell tweeted in support of KB (Kurtley Beale), ergo, KB (Kurtley Beale) did nothing wrong" is absurd.

However, I was suggesting that if you read a bit further into the tweet, it could reveal a bit more about the situation.

How's that for wild? Thank you and goodnight.