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England v Wallabies, Twickenham, Sun 10th Nov 2:10AEDT / 1:10AEST

molman

molman

Jim Lenehan (48)
The_Brown_Hornet said:
My thoughts exactly. Donaldson would be a good fit at 10 for that backline.
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Not sure I agree. I think the coaches have this one right.

Donaldson and Ikitau have much less playing time together than Lolesio and Ikitau. Not to mention that Donaldson whilst having moments hasn't shown with any of his opportunities that he is a cut above Lolesio.
 
Yoda

Yoda

Cyril Towers (30)
molman said:
Not sure I agree. I think the coaches have this one right.

Donaldson and Ikitau have much less playing time together than Lolesio and Ikitau. Not to mention that Donaldson whilst having moments hasn't shown with any of his opportunities that he is a cut above Lolesio.
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Disagree Molman. Given the 20 plus Tests at starting 10 Lolesio has had, I‘d say Donaldson with that amount of experience would be better… he’s just been chopped and changed without any continuity… a luxery Lolesio has had. Joe obviously sees something in Noah… he lacks any real ability to set an attack imo. I wish all the boys well v the Poms and hope we shock the critics… big call I know… but it is a two horse race..
 
Spamnoodle

Spamnoodle

Larry Dwyer (12)
Yoda said:
Poor old Horan… a dud commentator…. Gordon Bray…. Please come back !
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I don't reckon he's a dud and obviously none of the networks that have employed him since his illustrious playing career finished think he's a dud either.
But I miss Gordon Brays informative and colourful commentary very much.
 
molman

molman

Jim Lenehan (48)
Yoda said:
Disagree Molman. Given the 20 plus Tests at starting 10 Lolesio has had, I‘d say Donaldson with that amount of experience would be better… he’s just been chopped and changed without any continuity… a luxery Lolesio has had. Joe obviously sees something in Noah… he lacks any real ability to set an attack imo. I wish all the boys well v the Poms and hope we shock the critics… big call I know… but it is a two horse race..
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We have enough body of evidence from watching Donaldson in SuperRugby to say he isn't ahead of Lolesio. The coaches would have even more data and insight to backup their decision, not to mention the combinations I mentioned above.

I think some players stocks are higher for not playing and there is this perpetual hope that making a swap is suddenly going to change everything.

Anyway, Donaldson will likely get his chance in this game, so it's his to prove me wrong :)
 
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wamberal99

Jim Clark (26)
Spamnoodle said:
I don't reckon he's a dud and obviously none of the networks that have employed him since his illustrious playing career finished think he's a dud either.
But I miss Gordon Brays informative and colourful commentary very much.
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I assume that Horan is still an amateur. Only possible explanatioin
 
Yoda

Yoda

Cyril Towers (30)
Spamnoodle said:
I don't reckon he's a dud and obviously none of the networks that have employed him since his illustrious playing career finished think he's a dud either.
But I miss Gordon Brays informative and colourful commentary very much.
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Fair enough…too biased for me …and states waffle.. Turinui is the best on Stan easily….but they both are a million miles from the commentator Bray was… great players, which Horan was, don’t always make great commentators…just look at poor old Sonny Bro Williams… he out duds Horan…
 
Yoda

Yoda

Cyril Towers (30)
Wilson said:
Hard disagree. Bray was great in his day but was well past it by the time he finished with 10. Bringing him back now would be a terrible idea.
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He couldn’t be any worse than the blokes now. Sean Maloney is ok but nothing special.
 
Wilson

Wilson

Phil Kearns (64)
Yoda said:
He couldn’t be any worse than the blokes now. Sean Maloney is ok but nothing special.
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He absolutely could, he was worse than them when he finished up, I can't see how he would've improved in the intervening years.
 
Yoda

Yoda

Cyril Towers (30)
molman said:
We have enough body of evidence from watching Donaldson in SuperRugby to say he isn't ahead of Lolesio. The coaches would have even more data and insight to backup their decision, not to mention the combinations I mentioned above.

I think some players stocks are higher for not playing and there is this perpetual hope that making a swap is suddenly going to change everything.

Anyway, Donaldson will likely get his chance in this game, so it's his to prove me wrong :)
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Joe obviously is no slouch and has backed Noah..what would I know.
 
Spamnoodle

Spamnoodle

Larry Dwyer (12)
Yoda said:
Fair enough…too biased for me …and states waffle.. Turinui is the best on Stan easily….but they both are a million miles from the commentator Bray was… great players, which Horan was, don’t always make great commentators…just look at poor old Sonny Bro Williams… he out duds Horan…
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Turinui is the best of our current bunch, agreed.
I have no idea why Sonny Bill got a gig. It's embarrassing.
 
KOB1987

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
His first ever gig for the Lions 11 years ago wasn't great, but I actually don't mind Matt Burke as a presenter and he has a good rugby head plus a bit of wit. I've had a beer and chat with him on the odd occassion, seems a pretty genuine bloke. He finishes up at 10 at the end of the year, I reckon he's worth a shot for Stan now that he has that experience under his belt.
 
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