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England v Wallabies, Twickenham, Sun 10th Nov 2:10AEDT / 1:10AEST

Thalium

Thalium

Bill Watson (15)
I think moving Lenny in is so they can also use his left boot more to get JS into the air a bit too. Lenny likely to be happy as he will actually get the ball a bit more often. Definitely worried about Noah back pedaling under pressure.

I believe this team list would feel much better if they started Donaldson. I recon his play style is a bit better suited here, but then again im not the coach
 
Sully

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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stillmissit

stillmissit

Peter Johnson (47)
KentwellCup>ShuteShield said:
I tend to agree with this, but im worried his selection could have a bit of Vunivalu about it, because you know, they dont want to waste that money they're spending.
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This could be a factor and understandable from several positionbs. What concerns me is how the pack will go. Love to be proven wrong but if Dru puts a couple of hundred on Aus win, I hope he wins big but pretty sure his money is gone.. I am very positive on all Wallaby games but this little aside has me wondering where we are going as it seems it ain't the South African version.
 
KOB1987

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
Yoda said:
Stewart a ‘second grader’ ? Garbage.
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Bad wording on my part - I meant 2nd grade by international standards, not club level. He's good player, like most of the players in the A team, but he is not international standard. He was tried out and found out. Maybe JAS will be also, but I can see the logic behind selecting him, at least in the absence of Paisami.
The_Brown_Hornet said:
I'm happy for Joseph but I reckon he should be at 12 and not 13. It does answer the centre sizing question though. All season we've been saying that our midfield is too small, so now we have our solution. I'm hoping that they absolutely kill it out there.
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I would agree going forward but I think the plan for this game is to have him at 13 in attack and 12 in defense - I know there is no rule around it but the numbering seems to be based on the attacking lineups historically. e.g. the Pooper and Cheika barnyard dance days. I actually like the idea of seeing Ikitau - and probably Wright - playing the role of second playmaker, particularly with his left boot offering a genuine point of difference. Having JAS defend at 12 makes perfect sense, I can't see the dodgers formulating an effective game plan that involves running at him there, and with Lenny at 13.
 
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KOB1987

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
stillmissit said:
We've done this with Foley and it didn't work out so great.
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That was a bit different, Bernard defended at 15 off scrums and in the 5m channel on lineouts, plus there were a multitude of other movements that had to be facilitated around that. Also the rationale, wasn't as clear as it seemed - the general view was that it was to hide him in defense, but I have heard that the lineout setup was to keep him from getting taken out in the first phase, and that the scrum setup was because his kick return boot was more accurate than the fullbacks at the time. This is literally the 2 centres switching around.
 
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stillmissit

stillmissit

Peter Johnson (47)
KOB1987 said:
That was a bit different, Bernard defended at 15 off scrums and in the 5m channel on lineouts, plus there were a multitude of other movements that had to be facilitated around that. This is literally the 2 centres switching around.
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Yeah, but there ain't a lot of time to switch centres the rush D cancels a lot of time. I am looking forward to seeing how it goes and if it all works well then I will acknowledge your support for it, as an old fwd I shouldn't have a dog in this fight but it strikes me as odd if the switching is a thing.

With Foley they wanted to hide him as his D was average. Same thing with Cooper in his early days. Q? when was the wings swapping thing with Koro running massive K's?
 
KOB1987

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
stillmissit said:
Yeah, but there ain't a lot of time to switch centres the rush D cancels a lot of time. I am looking forward to seeing how it goes and if it all works well then I will acknowledge your support for it, as an old fwd I shouldn't have a dog in this fight but it strikes me as odd if the switching is a thing.

With Foley they wanted to hide him as his D was average. Same thing with Cooper in his early days. Q? when was the wings swapping thing with Koro running massive K's?
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Similarly, I'm sure there is a more complex structure to it than what was reported.
 
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Joe Blow

Joe Blow

John Hipwell (52)
fatprop said:
I will be interested to see how we counter the poms defensive speed

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Yes, they were crazy fast and really cramped the ABs attack, particularly early. I’m not sure we have the attacking nous of BB and McKenzie to go over and/or around to counter.
 
Joe Blow

Joe Blow

John Hipwell (52)
Tomthumb said:
Kerevi even getting picked for the Wallabies off the back of very little rugby and mediocre form in the Japanese 2nd division is the problem here. He has no rights to have the shits about anything
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He has his history and good genes. There is every chance he can get close to the player he was previously and if there is a chance of that, it is worth the risk. Which other 12 would you have in his place?
 
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