Drown out the haka: Bledisloe II | Tri Nations finale

[Jay]

Am I the only one who think this has a hint of Chav-ball about it?

 

[jay-c]

i love the genius idea of clapping after the haka> but lets wait till we have held the bledisloe for a couple of years to really rub it in to em
in fact i believe the reason we have copped it so hard the last 10 years is cause of the disrespect we showed in years gone by>> the 2003 steal of the hosting rights, handbag haka sitch, "foreign imports" , voting for japan for the hosting rights fr this wc, chnging bledisloe from 2-3-4 games to suit ourselves>its no wonder domestic abuse spikes when we beat em
the arrogance which will be shown to the kiwis over the next few years in the next golden era will be unmatched... but i wouldnt have it any other way
the calls for the rugby club guys to get on board to encourage everyone to drown out the haka are spot on>> a simple chant by the crowd but i wouldnt go as far as to get the ground announcer involved>>
and never again should the haka be amplified around the ground and tv>> watching the saffas drown it out was one of the sweetest sights yu will ever see fom south africa

 

[Ruggo]

Actually the Wallabies don't have to stand there, they are allowed to do whatever they like as long as noone from either side crosses the 10m line, I really don't know where anyone got other idea from, unless they believe the things Marto and Kearns say when thay trying to make a bit of news.

That's the shitty bit. I am baffled why the opposition can't approach and get in their faces. I would love the Wallabies to approach and stare them down. Maybe the silly old farts at the IRB think that is rude.

 

[biggsy]

1996 the wallabies turned there back on the Haka....2010 threat were issued to the ARU if disrespecting of the Haka, I fined it strange as they can through down a war challenge (Haka) and show gesture of slitting throats.....And teams have to stand there and cop it.... Bullshit...... Im all for advancing on the Haka, its not disrespecting, its showing your not scared and bring it on where ready to fight.....

Plus need to do something to keep warm after one of the longest national anthems and waiting for the Haka to end....

 

[EVERYFWDTHINKTHEYREA6OR7]

I think i am no longer on the fence.

If it isn't mic'd up. I will be silent and pay the haka the repect it deserves.

However if it is mic'd up im all for singing Waltzing Matilda.

 

[Apostle]

and show jesters of slitting throats.....

Jesters slitting throats. Now that WOULD be scary.

 

[biggsy]

here we go again, im editing..i cant spell

 

[EVERYFWDTHINKTHEYREA6OR7]

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/forum/threads/9084-Dont-mic-up-the-haka!!!

Check it out and get involved!

 

[Dan54]

That's the shitty bit. I am baffled why the opposition can't approach and get in their faces. I would love the Wallabies to approach and stare them down. Maybe the silly old farts at the IRB think that is rude.

I believe it because the IRB are worried that something would happen if both teams met. Rubbish I think. in fact if you actually watch some hakas in NZ rugby, 2 reams will do it at same time and actually go in amongst each other. To be quite honest if it upsets people that much, j I would have no probs with ARU saying don't do it. It is actually only done outside of NZ by invitation of hosting union. I know the All Blacks themselves were going to stop doing it except at home a few years back, but got asked to carry on. I find it funny that Marto's remark was taken so seriously to be honest, he actually used to say Haka fired him up, and if you watched show where he made remark he said how can you let them stand there and yell at us, it gaves them a "physical" advantage. Mind you he also called for Rocky to be dropped as Wallaby captain and then said hell I was only joking when it happened!!

 

[EVERYFWDTHINKTHEYREA6OR7]

I believe it because the IRB are worried that something would happen if both teams met. Rubbish I think. in fact if you actually watch some hakas in NZ rugby, 2 reams will do it at same time and actually go in amongst each other. To be quite honest if it upsets people that much, j I would have no probs with ARU saying don't do it. It is actually only done outside of NZ by invitation of hosting union. I know the All Blacks themselves were going to stop doing it except at home a few years back, but got asked to carry on. I find it funny that Marto's remark was taken so seriously to be honest, he actually used to say Haka fired him up, and if you watched show where he made remark he said how can you let them stand there and yell at us, it gaves them a "physical" advantage. Mind you he also called for Rocky to be dropped as Wallaby captain and then said hell I was only joking when it happened!!

I don't have a problem with it. I just think you either do the Haka or your National Anthem. I feel that we here in Oz are generally respectful of it. But to have two bites of the cherry.

Given it's become such a pre match ritual where will it end. I mean it can become ridiculous, I feel that if there are people out there who feel that NZ should then wait for us to then sing Waltzing Matilda, Sweet Chariot, Danny Boy have a very strong case.

Just have the Haka or Anthem. Just choose one and get the bloody game underaway.

 

[antipodean]

I actually wonder if people realise that the Haka has been performed at tests longer than Anthems? The first time an Anthem was done at a test was by the Welsh in 1905 in response to the All Blacks doing Haka.

What you fail to appreciate Dan is tradition is only good if it suits your purposes, otherwise you change it. Or you look for anything else that might help your team win. Got a lucky rabbits foot? Rub it three times. Doesn't work? Rub it four times and get a four leaf clover. Anything to negate the mysterious power of the haka.

in fact i believe the reason we have copped it so hard the last 10 years is cause of the disrespect we showed in years gone by>> the 2003 steal of the hosting rights, handbag haka sitch, "foreign imports" , voting for japan for the hosting rights fr this wc, chnging bledisloe from 2-3-4 games to suit ourselves>its no wonder domestic abuse spikes when we beat em

Just like it does here.

1996 the wallabies turned there back on the Haka....2010 threat were issued to the ARU if disrespecting of the Haka, I fined it strange as they can through down a war challenge (Haka) and show gesture of slitting throats.....And teams have to stand there and cop it.... Bullshit...... Im all for advancing on the Haka, its not disrespecting, its showing your not scared and bring it on where ready to fight.....

What is this dribbling shit? The power of the haka is all in your mind. You don't have to stand there and watch it, you can wander off like you did in Wellington in '96. It's irrelevant. Fuck the All Blacks, the NZRU and anyone else who craps on about "respecting" it. It's a tradition and adds to the drama. People want to see it (ref: Millenium Stadium). Or the ARU could just say don't.

But people don't complain about the mystical advantage other countries are afforded by their war dances. No talk about drowning out the Cibi, Sipi Tau or Siva Tau. Well maybe the last one might have just become an issue...

I believe it because the IRB are worried that something would happen if both teams met. Rubbish I think.

Yes the IRB are imbeciles.

 

[tblackadder]

from a nz point of view...

what you should do to stuff nz around is get some retard to stuff up the nz anthems like nz did a while back to the aussie anthem...that was a classic

then hopefully we will have a ever escalating series of anthem stuff ups year after year....which will cascade to all trans tasman contests...lawn bowls, net ball, hockey, you name it and everthing...

 

[Dan54]

I don't have a problem with it. I just think you either do the Haka or your National Anthem. I feel that we here in Oz are generally respectful of it. But to have two bites of the cherry.

Given it's become such a pre match ritual where will it end. I mean it can become ridiculous, I feel that if there are people out there who feel that NZ should then wait for us to then sing Waltzing Matilda, Sweet Chariot, Danny Boy have a very strong case.

Just have the Haka or Anthem. Just choose one and get the bloody game underaway.

Um yee of short memory, Oz did sing Waltzing Matilda for awhile,supposedly to negate the Haka, but think most felt it was too staged?? Not sure why it stopped. I am also amazed again it is only NZs haka that is causing problem, Samoa,Tonga and Fiji also do it. Your point is valid if you don't think there should be Haka and Anthem, and I repeat, ARU or host union only need to say we don't want it.

 

[qwerty51]

from a nz point of view...

what you should do to stuff nz around is get some retard to stuff up the nz anthems like nz did a while back to the aussie anthem...that was a classic

then hopefully we will have a ever escalating series of anthem stuff ups year after year....which will cascade to all trans tasman contests...lawn bowls, net ball, hockey, you name it and everthing...

Yeah no thanks, stuffing up another country's anthem is the lowest of low. We'll leave that to the Kiwis and French.

 

[biggsy]

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What is this dribbling shit? The power of the haka is all in your mind. You don't have to stand there and watch it, you can wander off like you did in Wellington in '96. It's irrelevant. Fuck the All Blacks, the NZRU and anyone else who craps on about "respecting" it. It's a tradition and adds to the drama. People want to see it (ref: Millenium Stadium). Or the ARU could just say don't.

But people don't complain about the mystical advantage other countries are afforded by their war dances. No talk about drowning out the Cibi, Sipi Tau or Siva Tau. Well maybe the last one might have just become an issue...



Fuck mate settle down,
Bashing on the keyboard there, what are you on about. Im agreeing with what YOUR dribbling about. Its does add to the Drama and I like to see the Haka, and love it when it gets challenged as thats what the AB are doing.
Are you a Kiwi getting defensive?
War haka (peruperu) were originally performed by warriors before a battle, proclaiming their strength and prowess in order to intimidate the opposition. (Wiki)

 

[AngrySeahorse]

1996 the wallabies turned there back on the Haka....2010 threat were issued to the ARU if disrespecting of the Haka, I fined it strange as they can through down a war challenge (Haka) and show gesture of slitting throats.....And teams have to stand there and cop it.... Bullshit...... Im all for advancing on the Haka, its not disrespecting, its showing your not scared and bring it on where ready to fight.....

Plus need to do something to keep warm after one of the longest national anthems and waiting for the Haka to end....

That's the shitty bit. I am baffled why the opposition can't approach and get in their faces. I would love the Wallabies to approach and stare them down. Maybe the silly old farts at the IRB think that is rude.

Yep, we've already tried to advance the haka with our womens team, the Wallaroos walked in one line, arms linked, to meet the haka, crossed the 10m line & got fined by the IRB. I know we lost that game but what I loved was their attitude as I asked my team capt who was a reserve hooker for that game about the fine & she said they knew prior to the game that they'd be fined but said they'd rather walk it down & take the fine than just stand there. I think our mens team really should just do it themselves it doesnt matter what we do in trying to combat/counter the haka, anything but just passively standing there is always going to viewed by someone somewhere as disrespectful.

 

[antipodean]

Well it's hard to determine exactly what you're saying given the SBW thread as an example, so I apologise and just take it as a general rant directed at the ideas in this thread.

 

[Ruggo]

I believe it because the IRB are worried that something would happen if both teams met. Rubbish I think. in fact if you actually watch some hakas in NZ rugby, 2 reams will do it at same time and actually go in amongst each other. To be quite honest if it upsets people that much, j I would have no probs with ARU saying don't do it. It is actually only done outside of NZ by invitation of hosting union. I know the All Blacks themselves were going to stop doing it except at home a few years back, but got asked to carry on. I find it funny that Marto's remark was taken so seriously to be honest, he actually used to say Haka fired him up, and if you watched show where he made remark he said how can you let them stand there and yell at us, it gaves them a "physical" advantage. Mind you he also called for Rocky to be dropped as Wallaby captain and then said hell I was only joking when it happened!!

NZ vs Australia wouldn't be the same without it. I enjoy that they do it.

Marto is a dickhead. Just look at Blue's signature line for proof.

 

[EVERYFWDTHINKTHEYREA6OR7]

Um yee of short memory, Oz did sing Waltzing Matilda for awhile,supposedly to negate the Haka, but think most felt it was too staged?? Not sure why it stopped. I am also amazed again it is only NZs haka that is causing problem, Samoa,Tonga and Fiji also do it. Your point is valid if you don't think there should be Haka and Anthem, and I repeat, ARU or host union only need to say we don't want it.

Yeah but i don't think it was done in a manner by which your blokes had to stand there and wait whilst we sung it.

I just think that someone will eventually complain that it's too much. Yes its traditional, i don't think that there would be too many Kiwi's who would disagree with you should they be made to make a choice.

I don't think it would be a good move for Australia at the moment to force NZ to make that choice given the Apple saga going on.

However i can see England trying to upset NZ as much as possible in the future by doing something like i suggest.

 

[BPC]

Am I the only one who think this has a hint of Chav-ball about it?

Only if someone throws a flare and a riot ensues.