Coaching Options for Qld Rugby
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Steve Williams (59)
Vance Stewart coached 1996 then one Wayne Smith from 1997-1999. Deans took over in 2000.
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Jimmy Flynn (14)
I am so disappointed by this. Where was the so called review? If they did a review and found out that a win ratio of less than 3 games out of 10, fans not coming to games in droves, players unhappy is a GOOD thing. Can I get them to do my quarterly reviews for my position. F Me, no other employer in the world would accept this to be OK why should the Reds or Fans? I want to keep supporting the team I have grown up with but this makes it very very hard. Time for a Player and Fan Revolt!
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Alan Cameron (40)
We got 2 in 10 games this year Floggin
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Jimmy Flynn (14)
We got 2 in 10 games this year Floggin
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Ha ha ha you are right. I'm filthy with myself for giving him too much credit. 20% win rate. Now there's a keeper!!
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Tony Shaw (54)
Re the Wayne Smith quote you highlight above, it was followed by something even worse:
"At the moment it’s “hats off” to McCall and Carmichael for having the courage to back their judgment in the face of the near-universal belief they’ve got it wrong."
I mean, really, how does he craft this sycophantic rubbish with a straight face.
And regarding the veracity of this article, W Smith's PR puff pieces for the QRU/Reds masquerading as objective commentary are so valuable to the QRU we can be assured that if the elite there was NOT going to re-appoint RG and they had other plans, a limo would be despatched for Smith to be comfortably ferried to Ballymore, and over a top-grade bottle of red wine in the quiet sanctuary of the boardroom, they'd tell him so.
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Alan Cameron (40)
Unlike, that is just a dissapointing article.
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Tony Shaw (54)
A btw. Re this forthcoming 'new support network the QRU puts around him'.
RG has been with the Reds since September 2012, and it's now, some 2+ seasons later realised that he needs 'a new support network'. I suppose that all the best insights take time to mature.
This has of course already commenced with the announcement of Brad Thorn as some kind of supplementary forwards coach for 2016. Which parallels last year's similar QRU/RG 'discovery' that 'the squad RG inherited we now realise should have been much more strongly refreshed after 2011 and so that will now occur with new recruits to ensure 2015 is a highly successful season after the 'disappointments' of 2014.'
But perhaps the biggest parallels for those with good memories is that from just after the poor and 'disappointing' Wallabies performance at the RWC 2011. Immediately ending that moment, JO'N, in a flap and surrounded by hostile media, announced an 'independent review of the team and coaching and support systems'. What transpired was of course not an independent review at all, but one done largely by ex-Wallabies on the ARU board. The report was never published, many had hoped it would lead to the late 2011 sacking of Deans.
What happened? Deans was retained 'but with a far better support structure' as the ARU's Nucifora in early 2012 sacked all of Deans' assistant coaches and replaced them with McGahan, Scrivener and Blades. Deans was retained 'with the ARU's continued support'.
Nothing much at all improved in the Wallabies standards of play in 2012, no silverware was won, and the BIL was decisively lost in 2013. After 6 long and largely mediocre seasons, Deans was finally gone.
Maybe we'll see RG at the Reds for 6 seasons and with Ballymore revived as Reds home field as Suncorp was increasingly simply too big to hold the 5,000 'die hard' fans that routinely arrived there for Reds games.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
The bloke running the Canes this year was in charge of Wellington ITM Cup team last year. He got the ITM Cup team relegated to the B competition. His performance with the Hurricanes in 2015 seems to be OK.
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Mark Ella (57)
The parallels with Deans, with whom RG held his previously highest coaching position, are very eerie. We could go over the credentials of RG yet again, but all here should know them by rote. What should now be apparent to all is the fact that the mode of play under Deans with assistant RG is very similar to that of the Reds under RG. The results are worse, simply IMO there are not as many experienced elite players in the Reds that were at the Wallabies. Not surprisingly to many the results were also mirrored at the Force.
I don't want blame RG excessively, it is a failure of the board as much as it is his, the results show that he was not really up to the standard and he has been put in a position where he was always going to fail.
I don't want blame RG excessively, it is a failure of the board as much as it is his, the results show that he was not really up to the standard and he has been put in a position where he was always going to fail.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Trying to remember the details of the NSW coach from many years ago who said to a new player who was making mistakes at training "Don't worry, it's not your fault. The selectors made the mistake".
Same scenario with RG.
Pretty sure if he's around for 6 years they could use an outside field at Ballymore as no one will want to commit to a seat and will be happy to stand and watch.
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Alan Cameron (40)
Jets, rekon they'd let us take an eski full of piss to sit on? If so, i am in.
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Il be supporting the Reds no matter who the coach is...always have and always will..
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Ken Catchpole (46)
I get a sinking feeling when I see the distinct possibility of RG coaching next season. He doesn't have a record of success.
It's not good for Qld rugby followers or players, nor is it good Australian rugby.
It's as though the Board don't want to acknowledge their prior mistakes.
How does one get voted onto the board of the QRU?
Also if RG's good friend and agent is on there he shouldn't be involved in any coaching decisions. Having any sort of sports agent on there seems to be a big conflict of interest to me.
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Also if RG's good friend and agent is on there he shouldn't be involved in any coaching decisions. Having any sort of sports agent on there seems to be a big conflict of interest to me.
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Don't know if Whitey is an practising agent any more Jets.
As for getting on the board, you get nominated by a member, 2nded by another and then voted in at the AGM. With your strong Sunnybank and Uni links, I reckon you could make it happen.
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