Brumbies vs Waratahs Super Rugby Rd11 2012

[Richo]

Excellent thoughts on the scrum at tactics. This apparent desire to get the pushover is of the same ilk as the Tahs tendency to throw the miracle ball rather than take the tackle, recycle and maintain pressure. It's a lack of patient execution that seems to be an endemic feature of their play this year (in particular).

There's a great term in NFL analysis -- a 20-20 team. In other words, one that is excellent through the middle of the field but lacks red zone execution. This, to me, sums up the Tahs very well this season on both sides of the ball.

 

[Paradox]

it could have been easily 37- 6

I don't think so (as much as I want to)

 

[cyclopath]

I don't think so (as much as I want to)

Well, you're not trolling hard enough then

 

[Cave Dweller]

Amazing how tight the stats were on this game and the points were so far apart. The only real differences was the extra ruck and maul turnovers the Brumbies got and the extra missed tackle the Brumbies did. (27 to 16)

Tight tight game, Barnes misses one tackle all night and it leads to a try.and

http://www.rugbystats.com.au/matches/rugby/match16130.html

Stats are like mini skirts. They reveal something but hide all the important stuff.

 

[cyclopath]

Stats are like mini skirts. They reveal something but hide all the important stuff.

Such as? I don't think stats are trivial, but neither are they the whole puzzle. People generally rubbish the use of stats if they don't support their preconceived notions.
The stats for Saturday's game reflect what it appeared to be to me at the time - the Tahs competed well in most areas, but in the areas they fell short, the Brumbies excelled. Small differences are all you need sometimes.

 

[fatprop]

Stats don't show how much time the Brumbies spent in the opposition 22 and that the Tahs were pinned in their half up until around 10 mins to go. The Brumbies were quite dominant after half time for around 20-25 mins. I think they were also making the advantage line more regularly.

That site does
Brumbies 5:27 TIME IN OPP. 22 Tahs 2:26

 

[Cave Dweller]

Such as? I don't think stats are trivial, but neither are they the whole puzzle. People generally rubbish the use of stats if they don't support their preconceived notions.
The stats for Saturday's game reflect what it appeared to be to me at the time - the Tahs competed well in most areas, but in the areas they fell short, the Brumbies excelled. Small differences are all you need sometimes.

Like I said they show sum but hide some important factors. Without watching the game reading those stats do they reflect the scoreline?

To me watching the game it does not show the psychological blow that turned the even contest into a pounding. That was the try right before half time. I know coaches always tell their players not to concede points just before half time and that try was in injury time in the first half. That was the blow that punched a hole into the Tah's morale as they dominated possesion for big parts in the first half only for the Brumbies to score. But rugby is a case of use of lose it. Brumbies used what they got and the Tah's didn't and lost.