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[SouthernX]

There’s no lions tour or World Cup bid coming down the pipeline for the ALeague.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

The APL are now trying to reunite with FA after the clubs (more specifically the owners) broke away. There was an article recently about the growth in the attendance and ratings of the A-League this season. Which ignored the decline in both over about 3 seasons leading in. So I don't think the APL are anticipating a lot of interest and/or and increase coming under the money on offer for just the A-League so linking back up with the FA who are likely to leverage the Matildas popularity seems to be the play.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

yes - but Auckland will be a big time ownership group in Bill Foley. Owner of the Las Vegas Golden Knights.

Maybe. Most of the clubs seem to be propped up by owners. The salary cap for the league is $2.6m with the minimum being $2.25m. So it's not a super expensive venture comparative to the other football codes. That said, losing around $2m in funding won't please too many. I've had conversations with Soccer mad family in the past who still maintain the A-League as being the next big thing. Things would have to drastically change for that to be true. Soccer is a global game. Which is an undeniable strength. But it's also what will keep the A-League confined to what it currently is. As there's much, much bigger fish in that pond and people know it.

 

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Just on being a global game as you mentioned. FIFA are starting a new 'Club World Cup" it will be once every four years.

Oceania will get one team in the 32 team competition, and the money for starting is 50 million pounds, roughly 80 million Aussie. As A-L teams can't take part in it as they play in Asia, its expected some NZ club side will get 50 million pounds every four years.

Would be funny if an NZ competition has more funds than the A-league.

 

[hoggy]

I too drink when in Melbourne.

Which does help numb the pain of being in Melbourne.

 

[Slim 293]

Which does help numb the pain of being in Melbourne.

I think that was the joke Derpus was trying to make...

But he also lives in Sydney, and I'm pretty sure all the bars that don't have pokies close at 6pm.

 

[Derpus]

I think that was the joke Derpus was trying to make...

But he also lives in Sydney, and I'm pretty sure all the bars that don't have pokies close at 6pm.

The truthful nature of your commentary angers me.

 

[Derpus]

Just on being a global game as you mentioned. FIFA are starting a new 'Club World Cup" it will be once every four years.

Oceania will get one team in the 32 team competition, and the money for starting is 50 million pounds, roughly 80 million Aussie. As A-L teams can't take part in it as they play in Asia, its expected some NZ club side will get 50 million pounds every four years.

Would be funny if an NZ competition has more funds than the A-league.

Its not new and Asia have four teams that have qualified for it. Not FIFA's fault we suck at football.

 

[Highlander35]

Asia as a confederation is the silliest thing.

The West, Central and South Regional Confederation should really be one "Continental" Confederation, and the East & South East Confederation should join with Oceania to become another.

 

[JRugby2]

This is very concerning.

Wonder if there’s any rebels like scenarios coming down the pipeline for the A-League?

Can an insolvent competition really chase clubs for trading while insolvent?

 

[Wallaby Man]

I’m not an a league fan (although have once held a membership) but the luxury they have is a transfer market and can easily raise revenue by selling players. One of the players only a few months ago went for $6m Aus, that’s 2 years worth of salary cap. Plus their squads are almost half the size of ours, so shedding salaries is a little easier if needed. It’s not really apples for apples with Super Rugby. They can also loan players out if needed to get salaries off expenses.

 

[Derpus]

I’m not an a league fan (although have once held a membership) but the luxury they have is a transfer market and can easily raise revenue by selling players. One of the players only a few months ago went for $6m Aus, that’s 2 years worth of salary cap. Plus their squads are almost half the size of ours, so shedding salaries is a little easier if needed. It’s not really apples for apples with Super Rugby. They can also loan players out if needed to get salaries off expenses.

There is clear incentive to have great player development structures and facilities in place as the sale of players to Europe is such a good source of revenue. It's so strange, then, that the clubs and the A-League in general is piss-poor at player development.

The ass fell out of Australia's footballing talent the second they brought the A-League in.

 

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Its not new and Asia have four teams that have qualified for it. Not FIFA's fault we suck at football.

You miss my point, first no A-L club will make the top four in Asia so no money for Australia. But with Oceania being granted a spot then its most likely a NZ team will be the team that qualifiers'. Meaning fifty million pound into NZ every four years thats a lot of money how they spent it and how it is shared is anyones guess but it is a lot of money.

 

[Derpus]

You miss my point, first no A-L club will make the top four in Asia so no money for Australia. But with Oceania being granted a spot then its most likely a NZ team will be the team that qualifiers'. Meaning fifty million pound into NZ every four years thats a lot of money how they spent it and how it is shared is anyones guess but it is a lot of money.

It is an NZ team (Auckland) and I didn't miss your point. I was just correcting your factual inaccuracies.

Also, the 50m Euros is just a rumour. 32 teams at 50m each is 1.6 billion Euros. Seriously doubt that is accurate.

 

[JRugby2]

You miss my point, first no A-L club will make the top four in Asia so no money for Australia. But with Oceania being granted a spot then its most likely a NZ team will be the team that qualifiers'. Meaning fifty million pound into NZ every four years thats a lot of money how they spent it and how it is shared is anyones guess but it is a lot of money.

If they're all apart of the same competition - would Auckland or Wellington not be considered part of Asia (or inversely all aus team be a part of Oceania).

In the event Auckland and Wellington finish in the bottom two - but are still the best teams in Oceania, it's hard to fathom how that works in terms of the integrity of the competition.

 

[Braveheart81]

If they're all apart of the same competition - would Auckland or Wellington not be considered part of Asia (or inversely all aus team be a part of Oceania).

In the event Auckland and Wellington finish in the bottom two - but are still the best teams in Oceania, it's hard to fathom how that works in terms of the integrity of the competition.

They're not. The NZ team that is in this competition (Auckland City FC) plays domestically in NZ and is semi-professional.

The NZ A-League teams are part of Asia given they play in an Australian competition.

Australia managed to get themselves re-allocated to the Asian Confederation a number of years ago to give us a fairer run at qualifying for the World Cup. Prior to that we would easily win the Oceania qualifiers and our World Cup qualification came down to a home and away fixture (generally) against the 6th place South America team which was never easy to get through.

 

[WoodysRFC]

If they're all apart of the same competition - would Auckland or Wellington not be considered part of Asia (or inversely all aus team be a part of Oceania).

In the event Auckland and Wellington finish in the bottom two - but are still the best teams in Oceania, it's hard to fathom how that works in terms of the integrity of the competition.

It'll be Auckland City, who play in the NZ Football Championship.

 

[JRugby2]

They're not. The NZ team that is in this competition (Auckland City FC) plays domestically in NZ and is semi-professional.

The NZ A-League teams are part of Asia given they play in an Australian competition.

Australia managed to get themselves re-allocated to the Asian Confederation a number of years ago to give us a fairer run at qualifying for the World Cup. Prior to that we would easily win the Oceania qualifiers and our World Cup qualification came down to a home and away fixture (generally) against the 6th place South America team which was never easy to get through.

Right thanks for clarifying.

 

[Derpus]

They're not. The NZ team that is in this competition (Auckland City FC) plays domestically in NZ and is semi-professional.

The NZ A-League teams are part of Asia given they play in an Australian competition.

Australia managed to get themselves re-allocated to the Asian Confederation a number of years ago to give us a fairer run at qualifying for the World Cup. Prior to that we would easily win the Oceania qualifiers and our World Cup qualification came down to a home and away fixture (generally) against the 6th place South America team which was never easy to get through.

If they actually do get 50m Euros they won't be semi-professional for long.

 

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If they actually do get 50m Euros they won't be semi-professional for long.

It's pounds not euros.

If it is Auckland FC as suggested they will get on current exchange rates about 104 million NZ dollars. Over 80 million Aussie..

Wonders aloud if the local governing body will let them keep it all.

No idea what kinda crowds they pull but that is a lot of money.