Australian Rugby / RA

[Goosestep]

‘You always buy an asset, not a liability’: V’landys takes swipe at rugby

As Rugby Australia made a $1.6 million offer to lure Roosters forward Angus Crichton to the 15-man game, V’landys (the horse racing guy) fired back when asked about the prospect of the NRL buying out the struggling code

www.smh.com.au

Laurie Daley is a chump trying to fly NRL buying union out. But I reckon he was fed the line to ask Peter V'Landys on radio. Going to be seeing a lot more articles kicking us while we're down.

Vlandys, ain’t as slick as he thinks he’s is…
trying to lower the asking price ayy? ….

He knows deep down Rugby is a global asset, (something league has never been )..

 

[stillmissit]

Re the league signings, it seems that at least they are going for players who were brought up playing rugby - presumably that will come into the marketing i.e. they were 'ours' anyway. I'm not condoning the strategy but I am least going to keep an open mind about it as there seems very little else that can work within the window of opportunity coming up aside from performing on the field. If it does work, they then have to do the right thing with the moolah.

Particularly with our under-18s getting done by NZ 30 odd to 3....

 

[Adam84]

We need to have a domestic grand final.

Obviously we can’t hope to reach the heights of the AFL but there would have been 200k at the parade today.

When was the last time we hosted a GF 2014? It just doesn’t work.

2021 for Super Rugby AU

 

[stillmissit]

Can't be arsed reading all of the above, but I did tweet some time ago that we've tried NRC and other options, and SRU attempted to scuttle them all.

You won't get all the Sydney clubs fronting up though - some will simply not have the cash or admin to do it.

Because what it WON'T be is bringing thousands of new fans. The issue with Premier Rugby in Sydney particularly is that they've spent so long alienating the rest of the scene, that we're absolutely apathetic to their needs, problems, and desires.

Not sure the highlighted is correct when fans rarely turned up to watch. Agree with the rest re club land, most are on the bones or their arses.

 

[Rebel man]

2021 for Super Rugby AU

True but I was meaning outside of super rugby au

 

[cyclopath]

Vlandys, ain’t as slick as he thinks he’s is…
trying to lower the asking price ayy? ….

He knows deep down Rugby is a global asset, (something league has never been )..

Or ever will be.

 

[HooperPocockSmith]

Not sure if anyones been keeping abreast of Taylor Swift and her new boyfriend -Kansas city chief’s Travis Kelce. Maybe this is a strategy RA could employ. Any eligible bachelors in the squad?

 

[Highlander35]

Ben Volavola was dating Shailene Woodley at some point IIRC

 

[Rebel man]

Ben Volavola was dating Shailene Woodley at some point IIRC

Who?

 

[RugbyReg]

Hes a former Fijian flyhalf

 

[Rebel man]

Hes a former Fijian flyhalf

I know that part he played a year for the Rebels. I didn’t recognise who he was supposedly dating

 

[Marce]

Not sure about Ireland TBH

Only 4 professional teams competing at URC, in a centralised model. But they are smart, they buy few top class players in position where they aren't strong. The backline is a pretty good examples, the only top class back born in Ireland is Jonathan Sexton, 4 of 7 starter backs are players from SH: Bundee Aki, James Lowe, Gibson-Park and Mack Hansen. Funnily all of them could be starters in ABs and WBs. Aki is probably the best 12 in world ATM, better than any AB centre. He's a HUGE lost for them.

They produce top class forwards: especially loose forwards and locks.

If RA wants to imitate that model they need to buy: top class locks, a top class hooker, a top class prop, a top class kicker, and a top class inside centre. But we are talk about top f*cking class like Aki and Lowe, someone who's going straight to the national starting XV. The centralised model allow they to buy few but expensive overseas top class players

 

[Pfitzy]

Not sure the highlighted is correct when fans rarely turned up to watch.

NRC lacked tribalism, for sure.

But any honest assessment of the NRC shows that the NSW sides were poorly supported by the SRU Mafia, because they wanted to play as clubs from the get go. More handout money that way.

 

[Goosestep]

Not sure if anyones been keeping abreast of Taylor Swift and her new boyfriend -Kansas city chief’s Travis Kelce. Maybe this is a strategy Rugby Australia could employ. Any eligible bachelors in the squad?

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[The Ghost of Raelene]

They literally had Nick Cummins on a show with 2 dozen girls and he left empty handed.

 

[Highlander35]

I know that part he played a year for the Rebels. I didn’t recognise who he was supposedly dating

SHe's dropped off hard the past 5 or 6 years, but mid 2010s she played the lead in "The Fault in Our Stars" and the Divergent series (teen adult dystopia series when that was a thing post Hunger Games). I have no idea about it, but apparently "secret life of the american teenager" was a big deal with seppos in a similar age demographic.

 

[hoggy]

A good article in the SMH which outlines the challenges facing Rugby in Australia.

‘Wicked problem’: From the ruins, can Australian rugby be rebuilt?

Many pundits and experts have blamed Australia’s disastrous World Cup campaign on long-term decline. What are the problems and can they be fixed?

www.smh.com.au

It is behind a paywall, but did open for me, It does share my view, for the game to survive it needs to pull out of Super Rugby and go domestic, essentially it has no choice.

 

[hoggy]

Just part of the article, Lets hope it happens.

Fujak comes back to the powerful positivity loop that feeds public sentiment about AFL and NRL. There are always winners to be celebrated and discussed on a Monday morning. Those good vibes have been in short supply in Australian rugby for years. That void could yet bring more pain, with the current generation of kids not falling in love with the game or its stars – even in rugby heartland markets.


“Of the few tangible solutions, for me I would bite the bullet and break off from New Zealand in Super Rugby. If you have an eight-team domestic competition, it means you are going to have four Australian teams winning every week, and an Australian team wins the grand final,” Fujak said.


“The quality might be lower than being in a combined competition, but I think that is now very secondary to having more franchises embedded in Australia, having them win against each other.


“And even if you let the top-tier Wallabies go to Europe and Japan and you just had a salary cap of $3 million in this eight-team competition, I think the absolute quality would be relatively secondary to having those clubs in the community, having teams win every week, the tribalism, having an Australian champion every week.

“Club rugby energy is already there. For me, that’d be the starting point.”

 

[Bullrush]

A good article in the SMH which outlines the challenges facing Rugby in Australia.

‘Wicked problem’: From the ruins, can Australian rugby be rebuilt?

Many pundits and experts have blamed Australia’s disastrous World Cup campaign on long-term decline. What are the problems and can they be fixed?

www.smh.com.au

It is behind a paywall, but did open for me, It does share my view, for the game to survive it needs to pull out of Super Rugby and go domestic, essentially it has no choice.

Ahhhh….the shrink to greatness model again. We don’t want the challenge of actually improving and winning against the best so let’s shrink competition to ensure Australian teams win!

The article talks about how Ireland only has 4 pro clubs and Scotland 2. It admits a domestic comp would probably be lower quality rugby. This is what you want to serve up to the Australian public? When they can watch and follow world class games of NRL and AFL, we’ll give them the option of 3rd rate rugby.

I think Steve Anderson has a better way forward and he has the credentials to be listened to.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/09/...-and-the-brutal-warning-of-what-is-ahead/amp/

 

[Joe Blow]

But which goose will they hire to run that

Should we start with hiring Steve Anderson as a consultant and actually listen to and then implement his plan? He has done it with success in Europe. The key to this is cleaning out most of the current board and bringing in people who will be open to massive change. Then bring in David Nucifora or someone like him to implement the plan from grass roots up, knowing it will most likely take 5-10 years to come to fruition. It’s a long game and there are no short cuts so any 50-60 something board members will not still be involved when we start to see the final results. It will take a very anti-Australian political stance to buy into it. I am not sure who those people are or where they are but we need to find them.
It’s a very big ask and we may be beyond it already? Who is going to drive it?