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With completely different Lions props. Robinson got drilled by Adam Jones - Robbo was good though. We'll be better next week.
Australia vs British and Irish Lions 2nd Test (Melbourne)
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With completely different Lions props. Robinson got drilled by Adam Jones - Robbo was good though. We'll be better next week.
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Jesus mate, Skelton is not ready. Furthermore, the Tahs scrum got dicked with him at lock by the Force and Lions.
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Larry Dwyer (12)
I'm not going to debate the point at length because it's not a realistic proposition.
However, it's bullshit to say he's not ready when he played the same pack a couple weeks back and shone.
But for injury, Timani would be the obvious player to come in if Horwill, as expected, has a long break on the sidelines. Skelton is like for like in my view, despite being relatively green.
Realistically, Deans will probably elevate Simmons (unfortunately). I'd much prefer either Kimlin or Pyle.
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John Eales (66)
I know Skelton has been good in the last couple of weeks but surely nobody in a sober state is putting him forward for Wallaby selection yet?
Kimlin should come into the squad if Kev is rubbed out.
Kimlin should come into the squad if Kev is rubbed out.
Richo
John Thornett (49)
From rugbystats.com.au:
Ben Mowen: 80 mins, 8 tackles, 6 runs (28m), 6 ruck/maul, 1 t/over, 4 missed tackles.
Wycliff Palu: 80 mins, 8 tackles, 7 runs (29m), 7 ruck/maul, 3 missed tackles.
So what, exactly, are these question marks? No, stats don't tell the full story but it's pretty clear that Palu was not a liability.
Our pack performed well enough to win last night, but the backs couldn't make it happen consistently. Despite that, we had two shots at goal that could have done the job.
My only change to the forwards would be dropping Simmons for MMM and Kimlin to ensure more versatility and more grunt off the bench.
I thought Tom Youngs got through a lot of work around the park and was accurate enough in the lineouts - why would you drop him?
Jones had some skulduggery going on - very experienced operator. Robbo did OK, I think that first scrum was just missed timing by the Wallabies. I wouldn't want to see too much tinkering, and I agree, the scrum will be better. Although that might depend on Horwill's presence or absence.
Well, it's a sample size of one so far. Not quite trending.
I wouldn't make changes to the forwards apart from forced ones if Horwill is out. Sure, MMM on the bench maybe, Kimlin too.
The forwards performed very well - good set pieces in the main, disrupted some mauls well, breakdown work was good.
Obviously, in the backs we have forced issues compounding the one glaring bad selection - JOC (James O'Connor) - and I am not too sure what the best combo will be. Lealiifano and Barnes were awfully unlucky injuries, and the loss of better goal kicking and playmaking options was too much from which to recover. If he starts Horne, I hope it's at 12, not 13, as he has been far better this year than last. Of course, that also depends upon who is placed inside and outside.
The forwards performed very well - good set pieces in the main, disrupted some mauls well, breakdown work was good.
Obviously, in the backs we have forced issues compounding the one glaring bad selection - JOC (James O'Connor) - and I am not too sure what the best combo will be. Lealiifano and Barnes were awfully unlucky injuries, and the loss of better goal kicking and playmaking options was too much from which to recover. If he starts Horne, I hope it's at 12, not 13, as he has been far better this year than last. Of course, that also depends upon who is placed inside and outside.
Bowside
Peter Johnson (47)
Do these stats count run metres as metres over the gain line, or simply metres from where the ball was caught?
I don't necessarily think Palu should be dropped for the next test, but I thought he was just about our weakest forward last night. And our lineout abilities could improve dramatically if Kimlin or MMM were to come into the starting side.
On your suggestion of dropping Simmons; Whilst I am not sold on Simmons as a player, I think you need a strong scrummaging lock on the bench to keep the scrum stable late in the game, and I don't know if MMM or Kimlin really offer that.
But our line out was fine? Did we have any major issues there?
Richo
John Thornett (49)
Usually they are from where the ball was caught. I wasn't watching him in particular, but it seemed to me that Palu always made the gain line. I'm not saying he was better than Mowen -- who I thought had a cracking game -- but he was pretty good.
I didn't rate Simmons last night. I know he didn't get much game time, but he didn't come on and move bodies. It was a big step down from Douglas, IMO, who was pretty good in the first half.
For me, the issue is flexibility. MMM or Kimlin on the bench gives lock, 6 and even 8 cover. And both are tough, physical units. I think we need a big, fresh body that come on and match the physicality of the Lions' second unit.
Edit: To clarify, I think Simmons and Douglas need to be a "one or the other" proposition. I'd be fine with either player, but do think Douglas did well enough last night to hold his place.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Who is George being brought into the squad for?
Won't he be suffering from the same lack of recent game performance that is a major criticism that many had against some of the original team selections?
Won't he be suffering from the same lack of recent game performance that is a major criticism that many had against some of the original team selections?
Ash
Michael Lynagh (62)
Regarding backline selections, I think there were two selection errors in hindsight, not one - JOC (James O'Connor) at ten, Barnes at 15. Not because of Barnes' unfortunate injury, but because he was rather poor before that. edit: oh, forgot Ioane. Hindsight says that rushing back Ioane was a mistake as well. But Barnes and JOC (James O'Connor) stood out more pre-game.
Beale will likely come back into the side. Beale's organisational play and running was very good. He will need to work on his defence, which was worse than another person I'd rather now name last night. 2 tackles, 2 misses, and I am sure that's not including one where North strolled past that was luckily called back for a forward pass from O'Driscoll.
I can't see Deans dropping JOC (James O'Connor) either. The question for me is, who will be at 10, and who will be at fullback? Assuming Barnes, Lelo, McCabe are all out, I guess Deans will go JOC (James O'Connor) at 10 Beale at 15 again. Remember Deans is stubborn, and takes a long time to admit mistakes.
I actually assume either Lelo or Barnes will be OK for the next game, as Deans did not call in any 5/8 cover.
Beale will likely come back into the side. Beale's organisational play and running was very good. He will need to work on his defence, which was worse than another person I'd rather now name last night. 2 tackles, 2 misses, and I am sure that's not including one where North strolled past that was luckily called back for a forward pass from O'Driscoll.
I can't see Deans dropping JOC (James O'Connor) either. The question for me is, who will be at 10, and who will be at fullback? Assuming Barnes, Lelo, McCabe are all out, I guess Deans will go JOC (James O'Connor) at 10 Beale at 15 again. Remember Deans is stubborn, and takes a long time to admit mistakes.
I actually assume either Lelo or Barnes will be OK for the next game, as Deans did not call in any 5/8 cover.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
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