Australia v Argentina, Sept 14th in Perth

[light]

Bring it on you big cats!

OUR wallabies are a united team and we don't lose these kind of games, ever.


Oh..and watch out for Issy

 

[RedsHappy]

I thought Muggleton's article was him positioning for a Wods job again, they could do worse.

As for the current lot of support staff, they ain't got much to work with frankly.

Add Nau, Hanson, Horwill, Higgers, Palu & Pocock to the forward mix and you start to add "starch"

Muggleton would represent an improvement over Scrivener, surely. The latter's had well over a year with the Wallabies. Look at the results. I am no fan of R Graham, but it's incontestable that he did an excellent job right through 2013 as de facto Reds defence coach. Defensive skills and formation are perhaps one of most 'coachable' skills in rugby. Just needs someone who knows the subject matter in depth and can teach it in a manner that sticks in play.

Re the 'fatalistic Wallaby cattle that can't be improved' paradigm of thought line, I don't buy that - the vast majority of half-decent or better elite players can be improved with the right teachers, right knowledge and man management methods. Jake White credited Smith with making significant improvements in the finer points of the Brumbies defence in relatively short periods. P Blake improved Wallaby defence (after a long period of gradual decline) markedly in 2010-11.

Re the 'things will improve when all our injured players come back' argument, that was I'm afraid the wide refrain last year when more Wallaby mediocrity was excused and explained through injury absences - and what's happened when many of those players have come back this year?

 

[Bullrush]

sup

As you may know both did lost all three match and somehow argentina got 2 points and AUS 0.

It's going to be a very close match, at the very least i hope pumas comes strong they shoulda have won in NZ or atleast a very close match if it wasn't for that fucking french ref

it's going to be an really interesing match and they are showing our new jersey (damn it's good)

i'll provide streams and everything! 5:05 am here, damn

Woohoooooo.....another game we won because of the ref.All those All Blacks ref trainings that Hansen and Co. have put the IRB thru are starting to truly pay off....

 

[Santiago]

Woohoooooo...another game we won because of the ref.All those All Blacks ref trainings that Hansen and Co. have put the IRB thru are starting to truly pay off..

they were going to win it anyway

but i mean, why the fuck kick a player for nothing?
all blacks seemed really tired but still they did a good match, i really enjoyed it

in 15vs15 all blacks could only do a try

 

[Quick Hands]

Any one know who the ref is for Saturday night?

 

[Braveheart81]

Any one know who the ref is for Saturday night?

George Clancy.

 

[Quick Hands]

George Clancy.

Thanks.

From that I suspect that the superior Argentinian scrum will be rewarded with penalties often.

 

[Santiago]

Thanks.

From that I suspect that the superior Argentinian scrum will be rewarded with penalties often.

Oh i'm flattered

i really really hope so, but lol, i remember a few matches ago our scrum was shitty

 

[Bairdy]

Argentina by 12.

 

[scaraby]

George Clancy.

Apparently Obama has had enough of the injustices in this part of the world and is sending over Hillary Clinton to put a rocket up Richies behind.................... the Poms are sending someone over in support of Obama to take care of Argentina...sorry couldn't resist

 

[cyclopath]

Referee is Nigel Owens.
Clancy reffed last week I believe.

 

[RoffsChoice]

Owens is one of my favourite refs, but he sure does reward whoever is on the charge and that doesn't sound like us.

Argentina by 9.

 

[Quick Hands]

Referee is Nigel Owens.
Clancy reffed last week I believe.

Still an NH referee, who all referee the scrum well and usually punish the weak scrum far more than SH refs.

 

[Brumbieman]

As Muggleton said, our transition to defence is rubbish, Deans hid it by limiting width and limiting turnovers by keep the ball close to the pigs, but when we moved to a more "entertaining brand of football" our lack of effort and accuracy in clean outs is leading to turnovers wider out, and then the shit happens.

A defensive backs leader is not the key problem, they may shut down a play every so often, but our problem is the transition not set piece or "set" defence

It's not the key problem but it certainly helps.
Anyone's who's seen a team with Ant Fainga'a in the backline know's exactly who is marking whom, even from 40 rows back at Suncorp.

It requires the whole team to be focussed on realignment and and transition, but having one player out there who specialises in doing that is not a bad idea.

 

[Muttonbird]

Weird that you would drop the world's best halfback three games into your tenure. Does McKenzie know what he's doing? What would be the reaction if Deans had pulled a stunt like this?

 

[Scotty]

Just watching the first half vs the Boks again now. The standout worst performer is Mowen, he really is ineffectual.

Pretty much just watching Cooper try and stop that first try (Fardy on the other side helps but Mowen does nothing), and then after Cummins great tackle in Kirchener he gives away an obvious penalty for hands in the ruck.

He needs to step up a lot, or he too should be benched.

 

[tranquility]

As Muggleton said, our transition to defence is rubbish, Deans hid it by limiting width and limiting turnovers by keep the ball close to the pigs, but when we moved to a more "entertaining brand of football" our lack of effort and accuracy in clean outs is leading to turnovers wider out, and then the shit happens.

A defensive backs leader is not the key problem, they may shut down a play every so often, but our problem is the transition not set piece or "set" defence

I haven't read that article, but it's some very interesting food for thought. It always amazes me how much more about rugby those guys understand, than I do.

 

[tranquility]

Just watching the first half vs the Boks again now. The standout worst performer is Mowen, he really is ineffectual.

Pretty much just watching Cooper try and stop that first try (Fardy on the other side helps but Mowen does nothing), and then after Cummins great tackle in Kirchener he gives away an obvious penalty for hands in the ruck.

He needs to step up a lot, or he too should be benched.

But for whom? Out of the current options, it could only be Shatz or McCalman. Ben has tried before, and Jake isn't ready to be a starter.

 

[The Red Baron]

Weird that you would drop the world's best halfback three games into your tenure. Does McKenzie know what he's doing? What would be the reaction if Deans had pulled a stunt like this?

Your trolling is getting quite clever nowadays, hats off!

 

[The Red Baron]

Just watching the first half vs the Boks again now. The standout worst performer is Mowen, he really is ineffectual.

Pretty much just watching Cooper try and stop that first try (Fardy on the other side helps but Mowen does nothing), and then after Cummins great tackle in Kirchener he gives away an obvious penalty for hands in the ruck.

He needs to step up a lot, or he too should be benched.

Scotty you really are on an anti Mowen crusade. I'll admit his best position is not 8, but he really has not been as bad as you attempt to make out. His line out work and leadership alone merits his spot in the starting side.

If you really think he has been so bad, give some more specific examples, not 'he didn't do anything'.