All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT 2024

[Brumby Runner]

ABs again appeared to have problems with the rush defence but I do think England were leniently dealt with as far as offside at the breakdown was concerned. All in all Gus G had an ordinary game.

England look far too strong for the Wallabies, I'm afraid, although there was a noticeable drop off after the bench came on late in the game.

 

[KOB1987]

ABs again appeared to have problems with the rush defence but I do think England were leniently dealt with as far as offside at the breakdown was concerned. All in all Gus G had an ordinary game.

England look far too strong for the Wallabies, I'm afraid, although there was a noticeable drop off after the bench came on late in the game.

I probably had this view prior to the game, however the All Blacks didn't play as well as they did in their games against us. The Barrett 10/12 combo wasn't very effective and ALB had a proper Barry when he went on. They were better off without him a player down the last few minutes. Also, we will be plus Skelton, Kerevi and possibly Sua'ali'i.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

Great theatre.

- Wallace is The 2nd Coming of The Jones Boy

- Ratima taking an extra step before passing was not optimal.

- 47th min, after NZ guiling their way to precious metres upfield, ball in hand, catch and pass and recycle, then Barrett casually fucking it all in the face by kicking the ball dead was a proper GET THIS f******* fluffybunny OFF THE FIEEEEEEEELD moment

- Having to watch Eng score an intercept breakout blitzkrieg jailbreak try with running rugby was worse than 9/11

- OMG Jordie got subbed! Surprised he didn't march straight up to the coaching box and berate Razor. "Don't you know who I am??"

- 74th min, Rieko ignores a massive overlap certain try to go it alone. Criminal.

tl/dr Beauden fell madly in love with the kick but she is a notoriously tempestuous mistress who, given time, will repel your advances and before you know it she's changed the locks and left you sitting at the bus stop with just your tears for company wondering how, how, HOW could you have fallen for such a temperamental psycho in the first place.

tl/tl/dr/LOL yesterdays man ALB subs on and loses NZ the match

tl/tl/tl George Ford botches 2 kicks at the death and loses England the match

 

[Brumby Runner]

I probably had this view prior to the game, however the All Blacks didn't play as well as they did in their games against us. The Barrett 10/12 combo wasn't very effective and ALB had a proper Barry when he went on. They were better off without him a player down the last few minutes. Also, we will be plus Skelton, Kerevi and possibly Sua'ali'i.

I think the pace of the English in both defence and attack will prove to be too much for us. Contrary-wise, they did seem to waste a lot of time setting scrums and penalty goal shots. Clearly, no clock on those activities.

Stewart owned Williams and will be more than a handful for Bell/Slipper/Kailea. Itoje was massive and had as many involvements as I'd expect Will Skelton to have over the three tests he'll be available for. The English backrow was stronger in almost all facets than the AB backrow, good as Sititi was. Cane was essentially the invisible man. The backline defence was in the ABs' faces all game and will be all over our attack I fear.

 

[KiwiM]

ABs again appeared to have problems with the rush defence

well when you have a 10-12-13 that aren't good passers it's not surprising. Add to that Ratima didn't combine well with Beauden.

ABs looked better when Roigard and DMac came on

 

[Dismal Pillock]

Beaudy to miss Ireland match with concussion?

Codie Taylor too.....

.....George Bell would come on to the bench

 

[molman]

Enjoyable game as it was close to the end, but boy is it dour to see England kept in games through penalties. I honestly didn't really see them scoring and that Smith intercept aside it didn't look like much was going to happen outside a mistake by the All Blacks. It's such a shame as I think they have some genuinely good players in that squad but I just don't know what their plan is with regards to attack.

I'd also love to see more overhead shots of their defensive line as they looked to be pushing offside a number of times to my eye.

All Blacks if they can tidy up the mistakes (tackling man without ball being the biggy, but also some forced passes, forward passes, fumbles etc..) then they would have won that game comfortably. They're far from the finished product but some players put in some great shifts and they left a lot of opportunities out there if they can cull the errors.

I'm not sold on some of the AB's kicking game as it doesn't always seem to be executed to the best tactical advantage.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

England will be filthy that they didn't win that game, particularly those two opportunities at the end. Their defence harried the AB's all game and there was a lot of dropped ball or general inaccuracy. The Kiwis did score a couple of excellent tries though and that should have been enough. But some sloppy play really kept the Poms in it.

 

[Brumby Runner]

well when you have a 10-12-13 that aren't good passers it's not surprising. Add to that Ratima didn't combine well with Beauden.

ABs looked better when Roigard and DMac came on

Looked better, but the England bench was noticeably weaker than the starting side.

 

[molman]

I think the pace of the English in both defence and attack will prove to be too much for us. Contrary-wise, they did seem to waste a lot of time setting scrums and penalty goal shots. Clearly, no clock on those activities.

Stewart owned Williams and will be more than a handful for Bell/Slipper/Kailea. Itoje was massive and had as many involvements as I'd expect Will Skelton to have over the three tests he'll be available for. The English backrow was stronger in almost all facets than the AB backrow, good as Sititi was. Cane was essentially the invisible man. The backline defence was in the ABs' faces all game and will be all over our attack I fear.

There were some rather slow plays of the ball from the 9 I agree. I also feel that they got away with a bit at the breakdown at times. For example that Curry neck roll whilst a foul only occured becaue he was going for the ball with his hands all over the ground.

They often flooded the breakdown and looked compressed a number of times. With their rush defense you could see a lot of space on the edges but also through the middle when they developed a few janks in their line which the AB's were able to cut through a few times with quick shifts on the line or by running a hard angle.

I'm not sure that we (Wallabies) are where we need to be as a team, but this England team does look beatable to me.

 

[molman]

MUNSTER: 15. Mike Haley; 14. Shay McCarthy, 13. Tom Farrell, 12. Rory Scannell, 11. Diarmuid Kilgallen; 10, Billy Burns, 9. Ethan Coughlan; 1. John Ryan, 2. Diarmuid Barron (capt), 3. Stephen Archer, 4. Fineen Wycherley, 5. Tom Ahern, 6. Peter O’Mahony, 7. John Hodnett, 8. Gavin Coombes. Reps: 16. Niall Scannell, 17. Kieran Ryan, 18. Ronan Foxe, 19. Evan O’Connell, 20. Ruadhan Quinn, 21. Paddy Patterson, 22. Tony Butler, 23. Ben O’Connor.

ALL BLACKS XV: 15. Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs/North Harbour); 14. Chay Fihaki (Crusaders/Canterbury), 13. AJ Lam (Blues/Auckland), 12. Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs/Waikato), 11. Kini Naholo (Hurricanes/Taranaki); 10. Harry Plummer (vice-captain – Blues/Auckland), 9. Finlay Christie (Blues/Tasman); 1. George Bower (Crusaders/Otago), 2. Brodie McAlister (Crusaders/Canterbury), 3. George Dyer (Chiefs/Waikato), 4. Isaia Walker-Leawere (Hurricanes/Hawke’s Bay) 5. Fabian Holland (Highlanders/Otago), 6. Oliver Haig (Highlanders/Otago), 7. Du’Plessis Kirifi (captain – Hurricanes/Wellington), 8. Devan Flanders (Hurricanes/Hawke’s Bay). Reps: 16. Bradley Slater (Chiefs/Taranaki), 17. Xavier Numia (Hurricanes/Wellington), 18. Marcel Renata (Blues/Auckland), 19. Naitoa Ah Kuoi (Chiefs/Bay of Plenty), 20. Corey Kellow (Crusaders/Canterbury), 21. Noah Hotham (Crusaders/Tasman), 22. Josh Jacomb (Chiefs/Taranaki), 23. Ruben Love (Hurricanes/Wellington).

Per rugbypass.com hence the weird format & links to player profiles.

Here are the highlights from this game for anyone who missed it. Munster got some good pay from their rolling maul and made a good showing of it (considering the odd week they've had with their coach being shown the door), but the ABXV's were just a cut above with a number of long range tries.

 

[Dan54]

Well I really enjoyed test, ABs made some mistakes etc, and a few of those were from good pressure from England. But hard for me to be too critical, and certainly couldn't argue with anyone's take on the game, as I watched it in a pub here in the Valleys in Wales, with a load of Welshmen, (and a couple of Aussies), the beer was tasting superb, so was just a lot of fun.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Plummer & McAlister added to AB replacing Beaugan & CodieT.

All Blacks summon replacements after Barrett, Taylor head knocks

Both will miss the Ireland Test under concussion protocols.

www.1news.co.nz

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

All Blacks: Will Jordan, Mark Tele’a, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Damian McKenzie, Cortez Ratima, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Wallace Sititi, Tupou Vaa’i, Scott Barrett (capt), Tyrel Lomax, Asafo Aumua, Tamaiti Williams. Reserves: George Bell, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Pasilio Tosi, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samipeni Finau, Cam Roigard, Anton Lienert-Brown, Stephen Perofeta.

Ireland: Hugo Keenan, Mack Hansen, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, James Lowe, Jack Crowley, Jamison Gibson-Park, Caelan Doris (capt), Josh van der Flier, Tadhg Beirne, James Ryan, Joe McCarthy, Finlay Bealham, Ronan Kelleher, Andrew Porter. Reserves: Rob Herring, Cian Healy, Tom O’Toole, Iain Henderson, Peter O’Mahony, Conor Murray, Ciaran Frawley, Jamie Osborne

 

[molman]

All Blacks: Will Jordan, Mark Tele’a, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Damian McKenzie, Cortez Ratima, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Wallace Sititi, Tupou Vaa’i, Scott Barrett (capt), Tyrel Lomax, Asafo Aumua, Tamaiti Williams. Reserves: George Bell, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Pasilio Tosi, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samipeni Finau, Cam Roigard, Anton Lienert-Brown, Stephen Perofeta.

Ireland: Hugo Keenan, Mack Hansen, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, James Lowe, Jack Crowley, Jamison Gibson-Park, Caelan Doris (capt), Josh van der Flier, Tadhg Beirne, James Ryan, Joe McCarthy, Finlay Bealham, Ronan Kelleher, Andrew Porter. Reserves: Rob Herring, Cian Healy, Tom O’Toole, Iain Henderson, Peter O’Mahony, Conor Murray, Ciaran Frawley, Jamie Osborne

That's probably the best that the AB's could put on the park (injuries aside). I don't mind the continuity. They need to iron out all the errors.

All that said, that's a pretty handy Ireland side. Not too much missing from that team. Loaded with experience.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Furlong out due to a hamstring strain, replaced by Finlay Bealham with Tom O'Toole coming onto the bench.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

350th AB Test call for Nisbo:

Commentator Grant Nisbett to call 350th All Blacks Test

He's now called over half of the All Blacks' 648 Tests.

www.1news.co.nz

England was AB Test # 648 so he's called over half of all AB Tests ever played. Remarkable career.

 

[zer0]

Should've been put out to pasture a long time ago. I'd rather get brutally punished by the Shiggins-cast, were it a thing.

 

[teach]

Should be a fun game. Ireland look like they are peaking for their 2023 quarter final match today.

 

[zer0]

Surely warranted much more than a penalty for a blatant offside + high tackle right on the goal line against a charging Savea? Regardless, personally would've continued with the scrum pressure on the line as the forwards seem to be gaining ascendancy there (?).