2024 Super Rugby Under 16 and 19 series (29th Sept - 3rd Nov)

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[The Ghost of Raelene]

 

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ACT Brumbies Super Rugby U19s Team v Queensland Reds

1. Finn Baxter (Sydney University)

2. Lipina Ata (Eastwood)

3. Komi Lester Tuitea (Warringah)

4. Ollie Aylmer (Gordon)

5. Billy Hansen (Easts)

6. Jacob John (Queanbeyan)

7. Jono Ryan (Tuggeranong)

8. Beau Morrison (Sydney University)

9. Lachlan Smith (Gungahlin)

10. Joe Dillon (Manly)

11. Samson Tuqiri (Tuggeranong)

12. Sam McLachlan (Gungahlin)

13. Malakye Enasio (Gungahlin)

14. Silas Pilot (Tuggeranong)

15. Shane Wilcox (Tuggeranong)

Substitutes

16. Bailey Buesnel (Tuggeranong)

17. James Foster (Gungahlin)

18. Liuaki Percival (Tuggeranong)

19. Deveraux Tapelu (Gungahlin)

20. Matt Hanley (Warringah)

21. Wally Wentzel (Tuggeranong)

22. Joey Henry (Royals)

23. Patrick Broe (Uni-Norths)

Head Coach
Daniel Hooper

 

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[Steve_Grey]

ACT Brumbies Super Rugby U19s Team v Queensland Reds

1. Finn Baxter (Sydney University)

2. Lipina Ata (Eastwood)

3. Komi Lester Tuitea (Warringah)

4. Ollie Aylmer (Gordon)

5. Billy Hansen (Easts)

6. Jacob John (Queanbeyan)

7. Jono Ryan (Tuggeranong)

8. Beau Morrison (Sydney University)

9. Lachlan Smith (Gungahlin)

10. Joe Dillon (Manly)

11. Samson Tuqiri (Tuggeranong)

12. Sam McLachlan (Gungahlin)

13. Malakye Enasio (Gungahlin)

14. Silas Pilot (Tuggeranong)

15. Shane Wilcox (Tuggeranong)

Substitutes

16. Bailey Buesnel (Tuggeranong)

17. James Foster (Gungahlin)

18. Liuaki Percival (Tuggeranong)

19. Deveraux Tapelu (Gungahlin)

20. Matt Hanley (Warringah)

21. Wally Wentzel (Tuggeranong)

22. Joey Henry (Royals)

23. Patrick Broe (Uni-Norths)

Head Coach
Daniel Hooper

Seven NSW players in the ACT Run-On - good to see player movement is alive and well, even at this young age group.

 

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U16 GF
Half time
Waratahs 19 Reds 10

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

NSW 31 - QLD 29 FT.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Biggest challenge NSW has had in the 16s in years.

NSW needs to be split still IMO. And add a Presidents/RA side of the next lot of QLD kids then 3rd lot of NSW and rest of the country. Give them another couple games and more competitive games.

Congrats NSW and great fight QLD. Nobody’s rattled their cage like that.

 

[Wilson]

Biggest challenge NSW has had in the 16s in years.

NSW needs to be split still IMO. And add a Presidents/RA side of the next lot of QLD kids then 3rd lot of NSW and rest of the country. Give them another couple games and more competitive games.

Congrats NSW and great fight QLD. Nobody’s rattled their cage like that.

I think part of the problem is that whatever happens in the 16s right now needs to match the 19s from a logistical stand point and the 19s are always going to drive the decisions there. I'm not sure the money exists to be running extra teams and rounds for the 16s that diverge from that 19s program.

Might all be in a bit of a holding pattern at the moment anyway, there's going to need to be a lot more consideration of how the rebels are run long term, particularly if they want to align this with the proposed super Au comp.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Get all of it and it makes sense. I just think when you look at the final table and the +\- it really isn’t providing competitive games.

Hasn’t been a one off this season either.

 

[Wilson]

Get all of it and it makes sense. I just think when you look at the final table and the +\- it really isn’t providing competitive games.

Hasn’t been a one off this season either.

Oh and fully agree and think in an ideal world we'd cast a wider net younger and narrow as we get older (to account for development differences, attrition to other sports, vagaries of talent id, etc.), I just can't see them getting there right now. There is also a consideration that the pathways they've been building are very tightly coupled with the super sides and pro setups which is something they'll want to maintain - so more room for 2 sides out of NSW and QLD then any sort of combined/barbarians side.

From the 19s perspective I'd prefer they went full home and away before adding teams, and rely on the professional game to spread talent alongside improving development to lift the Force as it has the Brumbies. Whether that opens up some room to do more with the 16s I'm not sure, but there're are probably some constraints on the length of the program that don't exist for the 19s.

 

[Wilson]

Brilliant kick off work from the Reds here, make an absolute mess of the Brumbies attempts to receive and then leaning on the strength of there set piece. Brumbies attack very incisive when they get the ball and is keeping them very much in this game despite QLD looking dominant and having the lions share of territory and possession.

 

[Wilson]

And the Brumbies do exactly what I was talking about and strike quickly from play starting deep in their half to take the lead. Real clash of styles in this game making it very interesting.

 

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Half time
Brumbies 19 Reds 14

 

[Steve_Grey]

Dillon def pulling the strings - Wilcox also good but a little greedy not making simple passes to support runners, and the odd poor kick - nothing that can't be fixed with coaching.

Reds #6 (now playing #8) very good.

Cracking advert for fluid rugby - and a well deserved win for ACT.

 

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Bring it home Brumbies….

 

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Full time

Brumbies 40-31

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Oh and fully agree and think in an ideal world we'd cast a wider net younger and narrow as we get older (to account for development differences, attrition to other sports, vagaries of talent id, etc.), I just can't see them getting there right now. There is also a consideration that the pathways they've been building are very tightly coupled with the super sides and pro setups which is something they'll want to maintain - so more room for 2 sides out of NSW and QLD then any sort of combined/barbarians side.

From the 19s perspective I'd prefer they went full home and away before adding teams, and rely on the professional game to spread talent alongside improving development to lift the Force as it has the Brumbies. Whether that opens up some room to do more with the 16s I'm not sure, but there're are probably some constraints on the length of the program that don't exist for the 19s.

I agree that it needs to be aligned as closely as possible to the Super Rugby franchises particularly at the U19s. I would also like to see that level go to home and away. But at the 16s level I think you can add at least another two teams still within the current pathways. NSW/Qld 1 & 2.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Dillon def pulling the strings - Wilcox also good but a little greedy not making simple passes to support runners, and the odd poor kick - nothing that can't be fixed with coaching.

Reds #6 (now playing #8) very good.

Cracking advert for fluid rugby - and a well deserved win for ACT.

Love watching Dillon. Genuine crafty 10. We don’t see many. We produce a lot of the good athlete, neat & tidy style. Bloke has that bit of magic in him,

Wonder if ACT sign him up or he goes back to Manly next year. Was named for NSW 19s originally so they did have him on their radar.

Congrats Brums. Good side with a good Coach it seems.

 

[Caputo]

As a cynic from Canberra all this win did is get some Brumbies players in the initial Australian Under 20 squad. So they can be weeded out later as they will always be like Brock Purdy (Mr Irrelevant) when more name players be included. Gerrard for Dillon.