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2022 Bledisloe Cup. Wallabies vs All Blacks

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Braveheart81 said:
I can't believe you're still arguing that cleaning out a guy right below the knee is just part of it being a physical sport.

The fact that it happens so rarely should be a good indication that most players are pretty good at not doing reckless things that have a high probability of injuring others.
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It happens all the time, it's just not seen unless the guy gets injured

Hell, there was another similar incident where Newell did it to Sio, but none of us saw it because he didn't get injured.

And to your point to tip tackles before, there are still the same amount now as there always was, it's just we notice them more now becuase we are conditioned to
 
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Will Genia (78)
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Tomthumb said:
It happens all the time, it's just not seen unless the guy gets injured

Hell, there was another similar incident where Newell did it to Sio, but none of us saw it because he didn't get injured.

And to your point to tip tackles before, there are still the same amount now as there always was, it's just we notice them more now becuase we are conditioned to
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The cleanout on Sio was a bit awkward but it was nothing like the Tupaea cleanout. He pulled Sio down backwards, he didn't hit him with force right near his knee.

I don't know what to tell you if you think the amount of tip tackles in the game are the same as they used to be. I doubt you'd find many people agreeing with you.
 
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Braveheart81 said:
The cleanout on Sio was a bit awkward but it was nothing like the Tupaea cleanout. He pulled Sio down backwards, he didn't hit him with force right near his knee.

I don't know what to tell you if you think the amount of tip tackles in the game are the same as they used to be. I doubt you'd find many people agreeing with you.
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He dropped his whole body weight on Sio's Knee, but sure, no force hahaha

Again, people letting the outcome (and slow motion replay) cloud their judgement
 
qwerty51

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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Braveheart81 said:
It was still to bend it in the direction that a knee bends as opposed to Swain on Tupaea.
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That's not the point though, only reason Tupea was injured was because he was held in the ruck by another Wallaby player (actually 2, Wright and AAA?), it wasn't purely Swain's cleanout.

If Sio was trapped in the ruck like Tupea was, Newell's cleanout would've destroy his leg too
 
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Ken Catchpole (46)
The position of Swain's arm hooked under the leg. That position combined with the driving shoulder is just guaranteed to end someone's knee.

That's the difference between Swain's and almost every other cleanout involving legs in the history of rugby.
 
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
gel said:
The position of Swain's arm hooked under the leg. That position combined with the driving shoulder is just guaranteed to end someone's knee.

That's the difference between Swain's and almost every other cleanout involving legs in the history of rugby.
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Nope, Tupea was trapped, that's the only reason this incident occurred and was picked up. Happens all the time and gets missed (see Newell on Sio).
 
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
qwerty51 said:
Nope, Tupea was trapped, that's the only reason this incident occurred and was picked up. Happens all the time and gets missed (see Newell on Sio).
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Exactly. Sio wasn't injured because he rolled onto his back, Tupaea couldn't as there were players on top of him
 
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Allen Oxlade (6)
Ignoto said:
I don't like seeing players lifted above the horizontal and driven into the ground, but here we are, where an All Black didn't get a card for it......
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A bit emotive there. Not really above horizontal and definitely not driven! Believe it should have been a yellow card tho.
 
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David Wilson (68)
So Swain has been named in Australia A squad, a convenient way of using up 3 matches of any suspension? And so can be let loose on NH tour?
Of course some people may think I'm cynical and no way RA would stupe to those shenanigans (like the rest of the world) ;)
 
qwerty51

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Stirling Mortlock (74)
There's no need to be subtle Dan, yes it's to reduce his suspension in terms of actual Tests missed and yes every other union would do the same.
 
Dan54

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David Wilson (68)
Adam84 said:
its the view of a columnist in a NZ paper trying to sell clickbait headlines to kiwis.

The only part i agreed with was his opinion on Foster and the hypocrisy he represents in his comments on this issue
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Mate only an idiot reads Reason columns, I won't even open them as you say he a clickbait journo, and a Pom too, his father was same.

Oh sorry I see you must of read it ;) :D :D :D
 
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David Wilson (68)
qwerty51 said:
There's no need to be subtle Dan, yes it's to reduce his suspension in terms of actual Tests missed and yes every other union would do the same.
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Mate I always subtle:p, and I agre most others would do it, seems it hard for anyone to get on high horses over it though, when others do it.
Seems they think he guilty though, so are trying to limit damage.........to Swain.
Actually if you had an NRC he could of used them there, food for thought and another reason to have one.

But honest thing is I surprised Frost in 'A' squad, really rate that boy and would have him in test squad.
 
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