2022 Bledisloe Cup. Wallabies vs All Blacks

[Braveheart81]

It was incredibly reckless.

Whether or not Swain did it intentionally is unknown and will never be known. There's no argument it wasn't reckless though and that is why he's going to get suspended.

 

[tragic]

Brace yourself for the flood of players rolling around grasping their knees after glancing contact only to get up and play on after the TMO review

 

[Joe Blow]

I am expecting to get howled down but I am not writing Swain off over this. The previous head tap was a stupid childish thing to do, a real head butt would have knocked him out. This one is another stupid thing, grabbing a guys leg in a ruck, the Kiwis would have us believe that he knew he was going to cause some serious injury, my take is how the hell would he know the guy's leg would collapse like that?

The bloke has serious skills and will only get stronger. Our best second row this year has been with him and Philip starting. He needs to get his top two inches in order though. No matter the outcome this incident will travel with him for a long time.

 

[Dan54]

I believe the fouls play committee has moved it to the judiciary, I suspect they either not sure of sanction, or RA is appealing.
I will just say I said during game it was a dog act, I still say the same he drove into the knee from side, and pulled at foot as Will Genia says.
I not assuming he was trying to really injure him, as such, but maybe making sure he made sure he knew he was there.
Adding to that the only other time I have watched a game, and considered a thing a dog act as such was when Richard Loe bame down on Carrozza, I in no way think he thought I will break this fellas jaw either.
I know it seems strange , but I not sure of all the things I have seen on rugby field in tests either live or on tv the only cases I called a dog act. Many offences are red cards rightly, for stuffing up height, but when I saw both acts I named I was pretty disgusted. I never had time for Loe after his one and will never have time for Swain on this one regardless of judiciary outcome.
I would add Swain maybe a real nice bloke, and everyone reckoned Loe was off the field too.
And just to be clear I actually agree a with Will Genia on this one, I thought before I get accused of being just a one eyed kiwi I would quote him!

‘It looked intentional’​

Aside from the late drama, there was another big moment of controversy, when Darcy Swain received a yellow card for going through Quinn Tupaea’s knee and putting him out of action for three months.

I didn’t like what Darcy did. I don’t rate that at all.

I don’t care what Dave says or anyone wants to say to try to justify it. He goes in for his knee and twists his ankle and his knee with his body weight.

They said he got a head roll or neck roll the play before. Right or wrong, sometimes you get caught in a position where you get neck rolled because that used to be a technique people used to clean out. Sometimes you get caught in those positions because it’s a high-collision sport played at an intense pace.


It looked intentional to me. There’s plenty of room for error as far as head knocks, as far as high tackles, and tackling in the air all go, but for a guy to do something intentionally like that you’ve got to stamp it out of the game.

 

[Braveheart81]

I believe the fouls play committee has moved it to the judiciary, I suspect they either not sure of sanction, or Rugby Australia is appealing.

My understanding is that Rugby Australia are contesting it.

You either plead guilty before the foul play committee hearing and accept whatever they decide or it moves from there to a judiciary hearing which is what is happening.

You don't get the option to wait and see what the suspension is going to be before deciding whether to plead guilty or not.

 

[Dctarget]

We'll have our pick of Skelton, Richie Arnold, Rodda, Staniforth, Salakai-Loto, Simmons, maybe Coleman in the NH come EOYT. So, we can afford to contest.

 

[Derpus]

My understanding is that Rugby Australia are contesting it.

You either plead guilty before the foul play committee hearing and accept whatever they decide or it moves from there to a judiciary hearing which is what is happening.

You don't get the option to wait and see what the suspension is going to be before deciding whether to plead guilty or not.

Given some of the rulings they've managed to get before, im not surprised they have a fair bit of faith in their counsel to get a result.

 

[Ignoto]

I didn’t like what Darcy did. I don’t rate that at all.

I don't like seeing players lifted above the horizontal and driven into the ground, but here we are, where an All Black didn't get a card for it......

 

[Dan54]

I don't like seeing players lifted above the horizontal and driven into the ground, but here we are, where an All Black didn't get a card for it......

I didn’t like what Darcy did. I don’t rate that at all

These words you used in quote were by Will Genia sunshine not me, but by all means carry on. And same as seeing someone lifted and driven into ground, I dislkise that too, by all means show it to me too, so I can get outraged at Genia too

 

[Dan54]

My understanding is that Rugby Australia are contesting it.

You either plead guilty before the foul play committee hearing and accept whatever they decide or it moves from there to a judiciary hearing which is what is happening.

You don't get the option to wait and see what the suspension is going to be before deciding whether to plead guilty or not.

I have no idea how it works mate, just all I have read it's been handed onto judiciary. You probably right too.

 

[stillmissit]

The bloke has serious skills and will only get stronger. Our best second row this year has been with him and Philip starting. He needs to get his top two inches in order though. No matter the outcome this incident will travel with him for a long time.

Lucky you had your top 2" under control at 25?

 

[Joe Blow]

Lucky you had your top 2" under control at 25?

I wish. I reckon he is an excellent prospect and I will not hold it against him. Those comparing him with Richard Loe are drawing a very long bow. Loe was a proven thug many times over. Eye gouging etc along with the Carozza incident.
Darcy is just young and impetuous.

 

[Tomthumb]

Troy Flavell stomping on Greg Smiths head was, Is and forever will be the biggest dog act in professional rugby

comparing a reckless breakdown clean out in slow motion is a nonsense

 

[swingpass]

We need to get rid of TMO’s

their input needs to be radically restrained to groundings if the ref cant see, egregious acts of foul play - instigated by the ref and either captain only, everything else STFU. the game can be examined post hoc and appropriate punishments meted out then. Give the ref back control of the game.

 

[Rebel man]

their input needs to be radically restrained to groundings if the ref cant see, egregious acts of foul play - instigated by the ref and either captain only, everything else STFU. the game can be examined post hoc and appropriate punishments meted out then. Give the ref back control of the game.

I would get rid of them all together but would be willing to go with your suggestion

 

[wamberal]

I wish. I reckon he is an excellent prospect and I will not hold it against him. Those comparing him with Richard Loe are drawing a very long bow. Loe was a proven thug many times over. Eye gouging etc along with the Carozza incident.
Darcy is just young and impetuous.

Some might say, young and stupid. He needs to learn self-control.

 

[stillmissit]

Some might say, young and stupid. He needs to learn self-control.

You could say that about 50% of the Wallabies.

 

[Tomikin]

You could say that about 50% of the Wallabies.

And about 95 percent of this forum ... Me included.

EDIT: half that amount are old and stupid

 

[dru]

And about 95 percent of this forum ... Me included.

EDIT: half that amount are old and stupid

Agreed. More time to learn when you are young, too.

 

[Dan54]

I wish. I reckon he is an excellent prospect and I will not hold it against him. Those comparing him with Richard Loe are drawing a very long bow. Loe was a proven thug many times over. Eye gouging etc along with the Carozza incident.
Darcy is just young and impetuous.

I was in no way comparing the 2 as players in general Joe, just saying in my opinion they were the 2 acts that I thought were the real dog acts when I saw them. There are many players that have done pretty shitty acts, but the 2 I mention were so clear cut when I saw them I thought bastard! I was watching test (on TV) where Buck Shelford had his scrotum ripped open, could see there was a lot shit going on, but didn't see one thing clearly that appeared t me as intentional as the 2 I mention.