Can Samo go like crazy for an entire half? I'd be more inclined to drag him after about half an hour and give Higgers a crack just before the break.
2012 Rugby Championship Round 3 Game 1 Australia vs South Africa - 8 Sep
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
I'd prefer that than swapping them at HT. Swapping players at HT seems like a waste to me, they're feeling refreshed and have a lot more energy, rather tell them to go full out for the next 5-10 mins and look to get a real impact and then sub them.
I often find the toughest part of a game is from 25-35 mins in the 1st half for some reason.
I often find the toughest part of a game is from 25-35 mins in the 1st half for some reason.
ACR
Desmond Connor (43)
Dare I say it? Go Wallabies! Resume your line up talk, nothing to see here.
Line up actually looking better, how long since Shipperley has played though? That is the back line I picked for the first test actually. For this week I would have benched Barnes quite frankly, he was just terrible last week (and possibly Piri impersonator Beale). Forwards will go alright I think, well I hope anyway. Hopefully it's a battle royale in the forwards, soften them up for us will you please?
Line up actually looking better, how long since Shipperley has played though? That is the back line I picked for the first test actually. For this week I would have benched Barnes quite frankly, he was just terrible last week (and possibly Piri impersonator Beale). Forwards will go alright I think, well I hope anyway. Hopefully it's a battle royale in the forwards, soften them up for us will you please?
Richo
John Thornett (49)
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
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To me Higgers was a bit of a shock. Don't think Samo is up to 20mins of real hard stuff. And KB (Kurtley Beale) is just crazy - talented yeah and all that blah blah but the bloke is out of form ( for whatever reasons) - IMO just sends a bad message that even if you underperform you still get the nod
Lee Enfield
Jimmy Flynn (14)
Barnes had a good Welsh series from a goal kicking point of view. The writing was on the wall after the Welsh series that that backline was not going to be anywhere near good enough to put enough points on the All Blacks to win. 99% of people on this forum could see it, but Deans couldn't. The lack of communication, the lack of accurate passing, the poor execution, the poor and aimless kicking, the poor ball handling, lack of direction all followed the Wallaby backs into the games against the All Blacks. There was zero excuse for what we saw from our backs against the All Blacks, they had enough game time and training to time to hone their combinations, and didn't.
We basically picked the Waratah backline, with the inlcusion of two creative players, another batshit boring player and chose to select the best 13 at 15/14, over players who had outstanding seasons in those positions. We got exactly what 99% people predicted and deserved, Waratahs in Gold and lessons in Rugby. In some ways, losing the Welsh series could have been the best thing for the Wallabies, it would have meant the deadwood would have had to be chopped out, .
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
Youbetcha Hugh!
BTW, what's our record against the "dreaded Boks" in the last (say) 5 years?
redstragic
Alan Cameron (40)
My take on the team is that it is excellent, obviously we're playing against a small, not very structured forward pack that will be easily accounted for and with all the backs we'll be running in tries aplenty.
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What type of alternate universe are the selectors living in? Without a backup lock and Samo in the team I worry we are going the be short of forwards for 80 minutes.
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What type of alternate universe are the selectors living in? Without a backup lock and Samo in the team I worry we are going the be short of forwards for 80 minutes.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Men in Gold vs South Africa,
All time
Played 74, Won 32, Lost 41, Drawn 1, Winning % 43.24%
Since ‘06
Played 17, won 11, Lost 6, Drawn 0, Winning % 64.70%
All time
Played 74, Won 32, Lost 41, Drawn 1, Winning % 43.24%
Since ‘06
Played 17, won 11, Lost 6, Drawn 0, Winning % 64.70%
tigerland12
John Thornett (49)
Finally, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at 13 and Shipperellie on the wing, now lets keep that for the next few seasons.
Must say I'm still suprised at Higgers being dropped, but I won't go into it again.
Must say I'm still suprised at Higgers being dropped, but I won't go into it again.
Our forwards were outclassed across the park by the All Blacks as well.
You're kidding if you think that any combination of players we could have put on the park were going to beat the All Blacks.
How many times have a team of debutants beaten the World Cup winning All Blacks?
Do you really think a team of (I'm speculating what you'd have picked)
Holmes
Moore
Slipper
Sharpe
Simmons
Higginbotham
Pocock
Schatz
Genia
Cooper
Ioane
Tapuai
Ashley-Cooper
Shipperley
Beale
would have challenged the All Blacks?
Whilst it is obviously an exercise in hypotheticals, I'm pretty sure a team that might have been in some pretty decent form in Super Rugby would have got its arse handed to it by the All Blacks.
As maligned as Robbie Deans is, if he'd taken the team that beat Wales 3-0 and said, this backline is all wrong, we need to get rid of 4-5 players and start again, he should have been fired on the spot.
tigerland12
John Thornett (49)
Well to be honest Braveheart....I do think that team would of done significantly better.
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
Bowside
Peter Johnson (47)
I probably would have had robinson in place of holmes. I'm not sold on Schatz either and although I was critical of his selection at the time, with the benefit of hindsight, I would have had Timani over Simmons as well.
But on the whole I think that team would have given the all blacks a better run for their money than the side we put out did. No doubt about it.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Some serious reverse psychology there, Paarl.
Even without the Battleship, your mob should still be competitive enough to keep the score respectible.
gel
Ken Catchpole (46)
Actually, that isn't that bad. Might not have beaten the ABs, but would have performed better than what we have dished up so far.
Blue
Andrew Slack (58)
Oh so you assume a victory for the Wallabies, just a question of by how much?
Right then.
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