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2012 Rugby Championship Round 3 Game 1 Australia vs South Africa - 8 Sep

Who will win 2012 Rugby Championship Round 3 Game 1 between SAF and AUS?

  • The Men In Gold – Australia

    Votes: 52 64.2%
  • The Bokke – South Africa

    Votes: 29 35.8%

  • Total voters
    81
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tranquility

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I think McCabe is an adequate 12, but I hope when he is fit and firing again he will play like a champion a little wider at 13 due to the discipline he would have gained from running the hard lines at 12. Patty can run great lines, and given that with a little more space his attack on the ball wont be dictated to him, I hope that playing 12 has been the best training ground of all for playing 13.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Oh dear, the thought of Alan Jones and Grumbles (Blocked Public Toilet) Growden together in a some retirement home is not an attractive proposition.
 

Forcefield

Ken Catchpole (46)
You know what this Wallaby team needs? More Luke Jones.

What I really liked about the Rebels this season was that Hugh Pyle, Caedryn Neville and Luke Jones all got some good game time. Jones could be a great 6 and its great to see him playing there and not as a lock. I think it will be a few years before he is ready to for test rugby.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Wallabies coach Robbie Deans urges Kurtley Beale to find playing balance

That's the advice of Wallabies coach Robbie Deans to risk-taking fullback Kurtley Beale, who despite still being "not the Kurtley we know", is in line for a recall to the starting side on Saturday.

An injury to Drew Mitchell has opened a vacancy in the Wallabies back-three against the Springboks in Perth, with Beale returning to fullback and Adam Ashley-Cooper reverting to wing the likeliest of scenarios.

It is not the simple lock-in it might once have been, however, following Beale's swift fall from grace after his Sydney shocker, where he was labelled "out of sorts" and "lacking confidence" by Deans.

Deans said yesterday Beale had improved in the weeks since, playing solidly enough off the bench in Auckland before diving into some hard fitness training last week.


But while not convinced Beale is back to peak mental and physical condition, Deans appears to be leaning towards returning him to the side above blooding uncapped wing options Dom Shipperley or Nick Cummins against the Boks.

"He's better but he's still not where he can be. I know he is working hard off the field at getting into the right sort of shape, with his body first. And the mind tends to follow the body," Deans said.

"We expect him to go from strength to strength. He is not the Kurtley we know, but he is more than capable and he is very committed to getting back to that state.

"He obviously didn't enjoy his experiences in the Sydney Test, and he doesn't want to go back there. If he committed to that end in mind, then he'll get it done.

"When he is brimming full of confidence and playing to his capabilities, he is probably one of the first men picked. He is working hard to get to that state."

Just where Beale's confidence has gone, in the mind of Deans, remains unspecified.

After moving to Melbourne this season, the 2011 John Eales medallist struggled with injury and perhaps the expectation of being the Rebels' highly paid go-to man.

Deans indicated Beale's road to recovering his world-XV form was learning to understand sometimes prioritising the mundane over the magic in order to do the right thing by his teammates.

"Every player aspires to players who others can rely on. Kurtley has got the capability to be even more than that," Deans said.

"Part of learning that role is understanding blokes like Kurtley have x-factor, and when to use it and when not to, is a big part of the discipline. Not chasing that fix of trying to be everything to everyone, all the time.

"He is a bloke who likes to win and be integral to that process, but sometimes brilliance is simply doing your job.

"Sometimes brilliance is simply being in the right place and doing what is outwardly a mundane task, but someone has got to do it."

Deans' comments gave some weight to talk out of the Wallabies camp that several young bucks are unhappy with his structured game plans and straining against the leash.

But the Wallabies coach again defended Beale and other Wallabies, however, from allegations of apathy after being criticised for smiling and joking with All Blacks straight after the game at Eden Park.

"It is an easy go-to for people who aren't happy, obviously. I would suggest the body languages probably havent changed with any opponent, at any time," Deans said.

"The change was the result of the day and the emotion that surrounded that. People tend to pick out things that aggravate them further.

"They respect their opposition and know them away from the game, they know them as people.

"There is nothing wrong with that. You could see within the game, while they're not happy with the result.

"There was effort in there, there was attitude in there."
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
I'm not sure he should be in the starting side this Saturday, but hopefully there have been enough comments made about his fitness that he's come to the realisation that he has to fix it quickly.
 

tigerland12

John Thornett (49)
So Deans says all that then pretty much indicates that he will pick him at fullback and disregard Cummins and Shipperely all together.........fuckin Deans
 

GaffaCHinO

Peter Sullivan (51)
Im heading down to UWA to watch the training session this arvo. Weather is pretty shit severe weather warning issued but i don’t care ill be there!
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
Talk in the Saffa newspapers this weekend is that the Boks ran in training with Pienaar at 9, Hougaard on the wing and Vermeulen at 8.

Hopefully the rumours that guys like Kirchner and Bekker are on notice are true.

Still can't see why Lambie is not getting a chance at 10.
 
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tranquility

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I fully expect the Wobs to click this week. For some reason, we match up to the South Africans very well - especially on our patch. I really hope to see Cummins or Shipps in the 22 as well as Taps.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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He had a fair few injury problems in the second half of the season (starting with the Tahs game where he hurt his teeth I believe).

Coming back from injury in the final was a pretty tough thing to do.
 

Brisbok

Cyril Towers (30)
Talk in the Saffa newspapers this weekend is that the Boks ran in training with Pienaar at 9, Hougaard on the wing and Vermeulen at 8.
Would be very happy if all of these were true. I definitely think Pienaar deserves a start at 9 and Hougaard will do well with the extra space on the wing. Watching him go against his instincts and put up box kick after box kick all year has been quite frustrating. Pienaar is definitely better suited to playing a tactical kicking role at 9.

I am also hoping we see Francois Louw somewhere in the 22. Although maybe unlikely given that he has not been involved in Meyer's planning from the start and now is only joining up with the squad late. Still, he offers so much more than Potgieter does and we need someone who offers an altenative to the standard "big, bash it up" style of play that the rest of our backrow specialise in!

As for Bekker, I'm not sure if he has not been 100% fit all year but he certainly seems to have taken a couple of backward steps in his physicality. Before his injury last year, his physicality was really improving. So much so that some critics were suggesting that he could play in tandem with Matfield. This year however he has been a shadow of that player and he was shocking last weekend. It was quite concerning to see some of the Argentinian backs running straight through one of our big second rowers! I would have definitely gone with Kruger this week with Bekker on the bench. If Meyer does go with Bekker, Kruger should be the lock on the bench instead of Flip the penalty machine.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
Yeah, I am a fan of young Lambie. He did drop off a bit in the last few rounds though, Blue.
He was injured and seemed to struggle when he came back suggesting he was not fit. Got injured against England and seemed to battle after that.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
Would be very happy if all of these were true. I definitely think Pienaar deserves a start at 9 and Hougaard will do well with the extra space on the wing. Watching him go against his instincts and put up box kick after box kick all year has been quite frustrating. Pienaar is definitely better suited to playing a tactical kicking role at 9.

I am also hoping we see Francois Louw somewhere in the 22. Although maybe unlikely given that he has not been involved in Meyer's planning from the start and now is only joining up with the squad late. Still, he offers so much more than Potgieter does and we need someone who offers an altenative to the standard "big, bash it up" style of play that the rest of our backrow specialise in!

As for Bekker, I'm not sure if he has not been 100% fit all year but he certainly seems to have taken a couple of backward steps in his physicality. Before his injury last year, his physicality was really improving. So much so that some critics were suggesting that he could play in tandem with Matfield. This year however he has been a shadow of that player and he was shocking last weekend. It was quite concerning to see some of the Argentinian backs running straight through one of our big second rowers! I would have definitely gone with Kruger this week with Bekker on the bench. If Meyer does go with Bekker, Kruger should be the lock on the bench instead of Flip the penalty machine.

The lack of openside was evident against the Argies which might force the issue on Louw. Just not going to happen.

I'd love to see him come in for Potgieter who really is not up to the job.

Bekker just looks like a guy who plays to preserve his body. Not a patch o nthe player last year who was relishing hitting rucks.

Sigh. This is all too bloody frustrating.
 

Brumbieman

Dick Tooth (41)
I really think Tapuai needs to get a gig sometime very soon, whether it be at 12/13/Bench, he is the type of 12 we are looking for. All rounder, good tackling, good distribution, handy left foot kicker and most importantly line-breaker. Was the best Australian back this season before injury.



Get your hand off it!o_O


He played 4 or 5 very good games, and a few average one's.

However, the Reds were a rabble for most of them, so he stood out, especially with Fainga'a injured.
 

GaffaCHinO

Peter Sullivan (51)
Pretty poor showing by the wallabies. Get here at 3:30 they already training its now 3:45 and all the forwards fuck off to the gym a few hundred ppl watching backs do laps. From the 5 mins they where running backline plays. Barnes wascat 12 AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at 13 shipps at 14 with beale at 15. Also goid the see shehan here getting a run.

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