2012 Rugby Championship Game 2 New Zealand vs Australia - 25 August

[Scott Allen]

Think he's lying to you, hard to find anywhere over $9

You obviously don't look hard enough Qwerty because I don't bet and I found it as well

 

[Ruggo]

Didn't read all the comments on the A. Finger niggle. His brother gets easily wound up but one game in particular this year A. Finger did what I thought was stupid stuff was vs the Highlanders late in the season. He pulls Adam Thompson off a ruck and then holds him down the face into the ground unnecessarily. Then he did it at the very next ruck again without no need and so when Thompson gets up and pushes him away fairly innocuously, then big brother makes a beeline trying to rough up Thompson, so two players taken y from the play for no reason against one Highlander. That seems dumb to me.

I understand the whole sticking up for a team mate and a brother, but there was nothing in it and for me S. Finger is a serial offender of just getting involved unnecessarily. But he's not the first and won't be the last, but you'd have to question his judgement.

I remember that one and thinking Ant what the hell are you doing. Never known him to be that type of player and sure hope he doesn't start to be one.

 

[Ruggo]

Dan Palmer at #3
Stephen Moore #2
Greg Holmes #1

based purely on scrummaging technique.

Shit, I thought that would also offer a handy workload.

 

[qwerty51]

Ok so most on here think Moore is a better player than TPN, without saying Robbie Deans is a downright idiot that knows nothing can anyone actually offer an opinion on why they think TPN starts instead of Moore from Robbie's perspective?

 

[biggsy]

Ok so most on here think Moore is a better player than TPN, without saying Robbie Deans is a downright idiot that knows nothing can anyone actually offer an opinion on why they think TPN starts instead of Moore from Robbie's perspective?

Because he wears a Tah jumper, only reason..

 

[gel]

Because it would be 2/3 of the tahs front row, (3/3 if the other weren't injured). He may be picking the front row as a unit.

 

[Scotty]

Just watching the rugby club and interview of Deans.

Did you do the right thing in not selection quade last week?

'we believe we did, it was to do with combinations.......'

Combinations? Did Robbie know that the blokes inside and outside of Barnes were both Reds players? Reason last week was the quade wasn't really fit, and now this? Please?!

 

[qwerty51]

Because it would be 2/3 of the tahs front row, (3/3 if the other weren't injured). He may be picking the front row as a unit.

Last year the last two games (both Wales) TPN started with Ma'afu and Slipper/Alexander

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Prior to Saturday he had played all of 15 minutes against Australia.

I thought he was okay last week. He was used as the ABs main ball carrier and most of it was given in traffic. He was there to draw in numbers and he did that job well.

He made mistakes but so did many other players wearing black jersies. He was far more involved and effective than Nonu. And he didn't need Cruden holding his hand, which is a ridiculous assertion. He's played quality over the last few years playing outside Carter, Cruden, Tom Taylor, Wilko, Slade

it's academic but I don't think nonu + SBW is such a good combination - although they're quite different players there's a lack of guile when they play together.


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[Knuckles]

Deleted, play the ball Knuckles

FP

noted

 

[biggsy]

Just watching the rugby club and interview of Deans.

Did you do the right thing in not selection quade last week?

'we believe we did, it was to do with combinations...'

Combinations? Did Robbie know that the blokes inside and outside of Barnes were both Reds players? Reason last week was the quade wasn't really fit, and now this? Please?!

It's amazing what a extra week does for fitness, even though he has been fine for months..
Cooper dose look like he has put on some size.
We will know tomorrow how fit he really is... I hope he Shuts everyone up.

 

[Gnostic]

Ok so most on here think Moore is a better player than TPN, without saying Robbie Deans is a downright idiot that knows nothing can anyone actually offer an opinion on why they think TPN starts instead of Moore from Robbie's perspective?

Because in one out "hit Ups" he and Sharpe are the only forwards who can make the gain line let alone get over it. Moore excels in fast pick and go and continuing momentum that somebody has already created. He doesn't create it himself.

That being said, Moore is a more complete Hooker, and he should be the starter given TPN hasn't been fit all year (the rest of the Tahs forwards are in the same boat so I am not singling him out for that).

 

[ChargerWA]

Is Dan Palmer injured. If not, what does the guy need to do to get a run? Ben Alexander has been below average all year.

 

[TOCC]

It's amazing what a extra week does for fitness, even though he has been fine for months..
Cooper dose look like he has put on some size.
We will know tomorrow how fit he really is. I hope he Shuts everyone up.

I don't recall Robbie stating that the reason he didn't pick Quade was because of fitness... He may have said that during the Wales series, but I haven't heard it recently.

 

[cyclopath]

Is Dan Palmer injured. If not, what does the guy need to do to get a run? Ben Alexander has been below average all year.

Yes.

 

[biggsy]

I don't recall Robbie stating that the reason he didn't pick Quade was because of fitness. He may have said that during the Wales series, but I haven't heard it recently.

Just over a week ago he said exactly that.

While the Queensland Reds star has played five Super Rugby games since returning, coach Robbie Deans said he was not yet fit enough for international duty ...

 

[Waylon]

Ok so most on here think Moore is a better player than TPN, without saying Robbie Deans is a downright idiot that knows nothing can anyone actually offer an opinion on why they think TPN starts instead of Moore from Robbie's perspective?

Because he hurts people. He's the sort of bloke that the opposition drops the ball because they took a sneaky peak to see whether TPN was about to annihilate their person. The bloke is a demolition machine. He smashes people. When he runs it up he goes hard and he hurts people. Australia doesn't have enough of these players.

Squeaky does the old stand flat footed behind the ad line and run one out and flop.

He's another wallaby forward who prefers to stand in the backline than mix it in the tackle contest

TPN every day of the week

It's time to pick a pack that bullies teams

The wallabies are softer than ice cream in the sun. It's a national embarrassment

 

[Paradox]

Last year the last two games (both Wales) TPN started with Ma'afu and Slipper/Alexander

That was on the back of TPN playing like absolute shit at the world cup (he was appalling against Ireland) whilst Moore was outstanding. TPNs selection defied all logic. At the time it was thought Deans was resting people.

 

[thierry dusautoir]

Dan Palmer at #3
Stephen Moore #2
Greg Holmes #1

based purely on scrummaging technique.

If we were trying to get the best of both worlds scrummagin and general play these guys still seem like the right choice to me or do you have different views?

p.s sorry for the twenty questions but your a man who has the inside view from an analysis point of view

 

[Paradox]

Squeaky does the old stand flat footed behind the ad line and run one out and flop.

He's another wallaby forward who prefers to stand in the backline than mix it in the tackle contest

Could you seriously be more ignorant?