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Sydney Middleton (9)
We all knew you were just preying on our unfounded pessimism at post #304...
2012 Australia vs New Zealand - 20 Oct
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We all knew you were just preying on our unfounded pessimism at post #304...
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Herbert Moran (7)
Perfect summary. Cannot fault this.
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randalf8
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We should just play the 2011 reds side
Bruwheresmycar
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Great test match. But I think NZ should have been awarded that try...
Schadenfreude
John Solomon (38)
You did. You lost.
Aaron Smith's?
Bowside
Peter Johnson (47)
I actually think the wallabies had the right idea playing for the penalty.
The all blacks were too scared to try anything and we were making pretty easy metres trucking it up.
The vibe was with us. If the player cleaning out had have been a second slower he probably would have hit a defender instead of diving over.
badabing59
Cyril Towers (30)
More positives-with Deans not actually losing this game, guess you are stuck can enjoy his coaching style for another year?
ChargerWA
Mark Loane (55)
It's this. Stop trying to start provincial infighting. It detracts from the threads.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
hawktrain
Ted Thorn (20)
Fair enough. I think he's one of the better referees around, but tonight I thought he just made some unusual rulings. It is partly a problem with the laws though, like in the scrums.
Does anyone know why the game wasn't played under the new trial laws? I believe both teams requested them to be used.
GaffaCHinO
Peter Sullivan (51)
ChargerWA
Mark Loane (55)
I believe NZ requested them and then the Wallabies rejected the idea.
On the breakdown situation, any game involving the AB's and Wallabies is going to be on the edge of the laws. They both contest this area of the game so effectively. If a ref let's it run, then he is freezing and letting the (insert AB's or Wallabies depending on who you support) get away with murder. If he polices it closely he ruins the flow of the game. The middle ground is non existant at this level. I would prefer they just call everything and put the onus on the teams to comply.
ACR
Desmond Connor (43)
I think Australia turned it down.
Possibly he means Conrad Smith inferring that Harris maybe didn't plant the ball? Aaron Smith's he just knocked it on. Cory Jane's would have been nice, foot on the line though.
Maybe someone will get a video of Harris planting the ball? In real time it looked like he did.
Pretty weird sort of feeling. If someone had offered me a draw at the start of the game, I would have taken it in a heartbeat. But the ABs were there for the taking, but we just lacked the skill and composure to put them away. Which I suppose is predictable given the inexperienced team we fielded.
The main positive for me was the fact that everyone just got stuck in. It wasn't pretty but they never stopped trying. TPN dropped it a few times but ran like a cannonball for the 70 he was on. Sharpie put everything in, as usual. Palu looked good. Douglas was a real bright spark, and why Robbie took him off I'll never know. Higgers gave a bit of niggle which got me right fired up.
The negatives are all as they were in previous games. The backline didn't fire a shot, not even on counter. Tapuai looked ok and deserves another shot. Cummins battled hard. Harris kicked well but can't help feeling he just isn't up to it in attack, so it's a tough one. KB (Kurtley Beale) good with not much support. Phipps very average, even though the forwards didn't offer him much in the way of options. We badly miss JOC (James O'Connor) and Digby, but most of all Genia.
So I'm not sure what to think. I'm happy. It was all in all a gutsy effort. Well done guys.
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The main positive for me was the fact that everyone just got stuck in. It wasn't pretty but they never stopped trying. TPN dropped it a few times but ran like a cannonball for the 70 he was on. Sharpie put everything in, as usual. Palu looked good. Douglas was a real bright spark, and why Robbie took him off I'll never know. Higgers gave a bit of niggle which got me right fired up.
The negatives are all as they were in previous games. The backline didn't fire a shot, not even on counter. Tapuai looked ok and deserves another shot. Cummins battled hard. Harris kicked well but can't help feeling he just isn't up to it in attack, so it's a tough one. KB (Kurtley Beale) good with not much support. Phipps very average, even though the forwards didn't offer him much in the way of options. We badly miss JOC (James O'Connor) and Digby, but most of all Genia.
So I'm not sure what to think. I'm happy. It was all in all a gutsy effort. Well done guys.
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hawktrain
Ted Thorn (20)
Ah ok, can't help thinking the crouch-touch-set call might've made the scrums a bit more stable. They seem to be reducing the number of penalties/resets.
The Harris/Conrad Smith incident definitely deserved a look from the TMO, I think Harris forced it but it was certainly closer than everyone first thought.
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