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  1. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    My mail is that NZ really aren’t sold on TT. The public aren’t behind and the administration certainly has major reservations. A lot of contributors on this thread are making a major assumption that a TT is even on offer.
  2. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Have you seen the reds v Tahs teams? I’m not sure the current number of teams in Super Rugby are delivering depth. Super Rugby has actually failed in so many of the metrics used as reasons why the status quo should remain. It hasn’t delivered on-field or off-field success. It’s been a steady decade long decline...
  3. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    This thread has contained some discussion of Super Rugby v NRC recently and what the drop in standard would mean for viewers atc. I reckon the Reds v Tahs teams for Friday night are verging on NRC standard to be honest ... maybe we get to that standard one way or another no matter the comp we play
  4. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    No quite the opposite! whatever the second tier comp is, it must be interesting and compelling enough as a stand alone comp. It needs to bring fans to the grounds and to the tv. and it needs to do this year in/year out - whether the Wallabies are #1 or #7.
  5. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Revenue shoudnt be only from Aus - but at the moment Aus derived revenue is barely enough to pay 60% of wages. what bothers me, is that RA doesn't seem to want to do the hard work and address the question of why our market is minuscule... It feels like we take the easy option every time. Yet...
  6. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Agree overseas money is a consideration - but it continues a trend of Aus rugby living off other people’s money. Was SA, then SA and OS... under a TT it will be NZ and OS. At some point we will need to start increasing our own fan base and as a result our own broadcast deals. This pandemic...
  7. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Braveheart - the same argument can be said of (Aus) Super Rugby at the moment. For me TT has the ‘Bledisloe loss’ every week downside. No Bled in 16 years. Rare comp wins in Super Rugby. Just recently a whole Super Rugby season without beating a kiwi team. This, as much as timezones, disappearing teams etc is impacting...
  8. sunnyboys

    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    What else I’ve come to realise about broadcast deals at the moment, is that RA wont be able to sign a new long term broadcast deal for some time - perhaps even two years. Beyond SRAu the next short term deal they can sign will be for Aus v nz tests. Spring tour won’t happen. Super Rugby in 2021 could...
  9. sunnyboys

    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    Could the Vic Covid spike scupper Bleds played in Oz? We could end up with the tests being played in NZ. Will depend on how both countries approach letting in non-resident arrivals. We might have to hope NZR goes halves with the gate takings.
  10. sunnyboys

    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    KOB - the first thing we have learnt is that no matter how starved for live rugby an Aus fan is, they won’t tune in to watch NZ derbies. The numbers for SRA have been the same from previous years of Super Rugby. I actually thought those ratings would have jumped up. So that is our first lesson so far...
  11. sunnyboys

    Reds 2020

    the three Reds boys leaving looked bad... but since we've had Henry and Blake go. If the outbreak in Vic delays the prospect of a TT, and as a result a new broadcast deal - we will see plenty more leave. the last bit of good cash inflow will come from the 4 bled tests they are planning - at...
  12. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    "level of rugby" is an interesting issue. i sometimes think we put too much emphasis on it. at Test level the highest level of rugby should be demanded. But at levels below that?? i think it has become a fixation for us because we lose >90% of games we play against kiwi opposition. NRL...
  13. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    the big negative a TT comp brings is the "Bledisloe loss feeling" every weekend... pitting ourselves against the kiwis means our fans will rarely be happy - its hard to build fan bases that way. cant we just have a domestic comp and have our teams and players feel successful - raise a cup -...
  14. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Do you have a source for that? I know it’s not on their TV guide yet. Anything else to confirm?
  15. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    With all due respect barbarian and Mickey Rummery, these are also all the reasons why Super Rugby should have been a success. But it hasn’t. So if I were looking at this with my business head on, I’d be suspicious of the value of those attributes.
  16. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Regarding a trans Tasman comp - I think one would only happen on NZR terms. I can see a scenario where they own and run a comp, and issue a limited number of licences to Oz teams. And we are participants only. A bit like the Warriors in the NRL. Because I can’t think for the life of me, why...
  17. sunnyboys

    Australian Rugby / RA

    It’s quite something, and also quite sad, to see the sport shrinking right before I eyes. This has been along time coming. But it’s still not pretty to watch. Gotta feel for the staff let go today. I’m not sure the Rebels will survive this either - and I’m not sure what fate awaits the...
  18. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Pretty sure Rugby Xplorer and Rugby MatchDay apps are both RA properties. Mainly used to manage players at all levels (I sign Mr 8 up through them) And also as the channel for their in house journos. I’ve found I’ve used it more and more for news lately. Would love to see it expanded for...
  19. sunnyboys

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Inviting the Force back is like sleeping with your ex GF/BF, and they spend the whole time in bed telling you how much better their new partner is! I just don’t know why RA would do this ... they have stand there whilst Twiggy slaps them about the face. And then next year RA have to job of...
  20. sunnyboys

    Reds 2020

    Geoff Parkes in the Roar has stated in an article this morning that Hockings is going Suntory and Lucas to Ricoh
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