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  1. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    At the moment, players are contracted to clubs and not their respective unions, so clubs tend to have the whip hand. When the Sydney concept was floated last year, clubs had to nominate 3 players for the squad, which was whittled down to 2 per club for the first game against Rebel Rising. In...
  2. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    Given that all S14 contracted and Academy players were compelled to play in the ARC, S14 franchises as well as the ARU had deemed the comp as the official stepping stone to Super Rugby and long term Uni Coach, Bill Millard was in charge of the Melbourne Rebels, are you saying that Uni could have...
  3. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    Sorry Bruce if I am completely wrong in concluding that the lack of Uni players in both the Sydney & Country teams is due to self-interest on the club's part. When I was coach of NSW Country, I asked a couple of Uni players to help us out against an international touring team. Although...
  4. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    I think what the Sydney -Country game needs is a 1980 State-of-Origin style boil-over. Perhaps then Sydney will begin to take the fixture seriously. While there was a lot of talent, the side looked more of a compromise rather than a true reflection of Shute Shield form. There appeared not much...
  5. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012 ins and outs

    Pretty good summary ITIK. That's exactly the way I see it too. Knuckles is right on the Jeremy Su'a thing too- hope he goes well with the Rebels. The question is, now that he has played for Manu Samoa, is he considered an overseas player?
  6. Andrew B Cox

    Player Managers - when do players need them

    I think a real problem with the player-manager at club level is that to get a greater return, a manager needs to shop his players around. The only way to increase his return is to get more from his charges. Most of the time, this results in moving players to a new club, under a greater contract...
  7. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012 ins and outs

    No matter where these blokes go, they'll have to take themselves with them. Balknred, I wouldn't agree that they weren't given a go. Miles, Shannin, Fongy all played 1sts- and all very well. I'd suggest a couple of them would have played a lot of top grade in 2012. Marcus and Piono couldn't get...
  8. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    Keithy, I do agree with you that from the 1960's soccer has been the dominant sport in that Leichhardt/ Five Dock/ Haberfield/ Concord area, however, as I said in my last post, the demographic is rapidly changing. House prices in the inner west have dictated that. What's more, the number of kids...
  9. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    I didnt know Hills Sports High and St Pats Strathfield were Wests junior development clubs...........Same as Joeys where Bill Young went............ I'm talking about Wests only having 1 junior club for years, doing NOTHING to grow the number clubs within the district (let's face it, not every...
  10. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    I quite like the idea of trailing fees every time a player moves. It rewards clubs and schools for developing talent. It should, however not stop at Shute Shield Clubs. A player like Francis Fainifo, for example, was picked for the Brumbies from NSW Country, who in turn, picked him from New...
  11. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    Hi Bradley, At the moment I'm undecided. Danny Manu will be taking over at West Harbour, He's a terrific bloke and I'm sure he'll do well there. I've got a son who's playing league and wants to try Union as well, so I may be helping out there. Either way, I will be watching a lot of Shute...
  12. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    Hi guys, I've been very interested in this thread, particularly as I've been quite close to these West Harbour players over the past year. There are a couple of factors here that need mentioning. The first is that clubs tend to recruit from clubs below them, rather than above. West Harbour has...
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