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  1. Andrew B Cox

    If everyone played for their junior club

    Ok, I'll try to get the ball rolling on Wests and Eastwood. Happy to be shot down. Got a number of holes as well. Wests 1. Rodney Blake 2.Todd Pearce (I know he grew up around Eastwood, but colts at Wests.) 3. Salesi Ma'afu 4. Steve Cummins (played colts at WH whilst still a junior) 5. Dan...
  2. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    Treweek from Wests for the Catchpole. Red hair stands out, and the refs pick it. And for the Brockhoff,can't go past Christini. Mainly because it was judged by his peers before the play-offs.
  3. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    This proposal is so good that Warren Livingstone doesn't even need to mention his ideas to Fox Sports for them to get on board! Anyone watching 'The Rugby Club' last night will know that Fox deny any knowledge of it! Happy to see this comp burst forth into life, but I can't help thinking...
  4. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    Balmain are a well organised unit and want to play on a bigger stage, however, for commercial TV to be interested, it will probably need to be a national comp. The high cost of production dictates it needs a big audience to break even down the track. But hey, if they build it, I'll be one of...
  5. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    Fox buy plenty of stuff 'off the shelf'. It's quite another thing to fund the production once you've bought the rights.
  6. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    No dice unless it's national. People are watching ITM Cup on Fox - that's true. And Heineken Cup. But the additional cost of production means that a Sydney-centric comp just isn't worth the money. And who would buy Shute Shield for overseas consumption? Full tilt 3rd tier possibly.
  7. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    The arguments about not worrying about districts at all are pretty convincing. I also agree that the clubs protect their own turf at the expense of the game as a whole - which is natural I suppose. A strong central admin such as IS suggests is one solution. Another problem is TV. How much...
  8. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    I agree completely with everything you say here. Perhaps simple demographics is too narrow a criteria. You'd have to factor in all the factors you describe. The tribalism is a tough one. Volunteers do so because they love the club- probably more than the game. It's always the first casualty of...
  9. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    Fair enough. I think the Uni v West thing has grown a life of its own. Whether one or both deserve there remains up for conjecture. However the main argument is that Shute Shield has antiquated boundaries. You can't fit 2 teams in the inner west, just like 2 on the north Shore, northern...
  10. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    Gee whiz, where do I start? Firstly, I agree absolutely that if a restructure of the Shute Shield were to take place, a redistribution of junior clubs more equitably should take place. I also agree that University has an advantage over the other clubs. This advantage, however, has been...
  11. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    So, just off the top of my head... 1. All age groups represented at State Cup in June. Compare that to Wests- no 13s and all other age groups had to rely on imported players to be competitive. 2. 3 Village clubs. Compared to Wests who have 1. 3. Registered numbers. No idea, but given the...
  12. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    By the measure that I've seen them at the State Cup with experienced coaching, good kit and appear to be very well prepared. Having been involved in juniors at Wests and Eastwood, I got the impression that they're doing things pretty well. The under 12s this year in particular, beat Wests and...
  13. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    I'd have to say that there are plenty of junior clubs not established by the district clubs. In fact, I'd guess the majority. Point is, Uni does a good job with their junior program. Arguably better than other districts. In the context of my original remark about re-casting district boundaries...
  14. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    You're probably right about giving them a wildcard given their unique position, however you'll find that they have three junior clubs (Petersham, Cantebury, Balmain) compared to Wests single junior club. Their junior rep team in under 12s was pretty good. They had Peter Delavere coaching them...
  15. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    Well, I only ever played at one club, and coached there for six years. And my closest friends are the guys I played there with. So I guess it makes sense.
  16. Andrew B Cox

    Sydney Shake Up

    I tend to think that there is too much administration to move forward positively, each protecting its own forever-reducing-patch. We have NSWRU-SRU- SSRU- NSWCRU- NSWJRU-SJRU and NSW Schools RU (even within that GPS, CAS, CIS and CHS) all looking after some aspect of NSW rugby. Premier rugby...
  17. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    Thanks for the clarification. As someone who used to coach Wests, you'd think I'd be all over that one!
  18. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    Nice work OTB. Is an offence a yellow or a red, or indeed both?
  19. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    Does anyone know if there is any chance of a reprieve for Easts' loss of points prior to the weekend? It seems that they hit a rough patch just before the cut and given they were in the top half of the draw, had little chance to regain their momentum. Although I'm not sure why they've lost...
  20. Andrew B Cox

    Shute Shield 2012

    Sorry Bruce, but my comments were certainly not made in the context of a series of attacks on one club, but merely responding to a question based on my knowledge. I agree that 'contract' is a wrong expression, as, as far as I know, these agreements are unenforceable. However, from my...
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