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I've maintained for some time that a deal with the JRU probably helps us with international player availability and we could also have some competition cross over and additional games for our teams.

I went and watched the club grand finals on the weekend here in Perth, held at one of the local clubs (Kalamunda this year). Stacks of people across the three fields and a bumper crowd for the first grade GF (which was a cracking game). I don't know quite how we do it, but connecting those...

Agreed. Few things are permanent and let's not forget that the while the Saffers are on top now, they've had some ordinary moments in the last 10-15 years. They've been wooden spooners 11 times in the combined 3N/RC!

Hard to disagree with anything Pfitzy said above. I remain steadfast in my view that all is not lost, but change is clearly required. I applaud everyone who is fighting the good fight to effect it. Hopefully Horne will roll his sleeves up and get us on a better path.

Yep, after watching O'Donnell carve up in the Shute Shield grand final I'm a little disappointed.

I think there are some blokes who are on the cusp of being there or thereabouts, but probably nobody properly in the conversation right now.

I don't agree with that. As KOB said, Safferland has been a basket case for a long time. The big loss against us was a big deal for English rugby at the time. My point is that Australian rugby has seen worse times and recovered. The early to mid 1970's was a poor era and within a few years...

Yeah correct. This is not the worst situation the game has been in here and other sides have copped hidings and come back from them. Anyone remember when we beat England 76-0 or South Africa 49-0? Both of those teams went on to win World Cups, South Africa in the following year. Last night's...

I wonder if after our shellacking this weekend and the All Blacks losing their third game of the season, that there might be a meeting of the minds between the two unions? The current setup between our two countries is probably not working for the Kiwis as much as it isn't for us.

Just seen the score. What the hell happened out there?

Pretty certain he's back at the Tahs next year

I was at Tompkins Park on Saturday watching a mate run around and Paly have done exceptionally well this year.

Yeah proper siege mentality with Saffer rugby. They're good enough that they don't need to engage in this kind of crap.

Couldn’t believe it. Said one thing and did another!

O’Donnell was absolutely outstanding I thought. It’s such a pleasure seeing a centre hit the line at pace and at those kinds of hard angles like he did yesterday.

Fantastic grand final, one of the best I can remember. There were a few blokes running around out there who will surely be starting for the Tahs next year.

I like the Stewart option at 12. His defence is good and he's an excellent passer. It takes us back to more of a centre combo of sledgehammer + rapier that I personally have always favoured. I think Hunter tries his guts out but he's not big enough to be a sledgehammer and his passing isn't...

Apropos of nothing immediately in this thread, but sort of in terms of our constant battle with the other code: I turned over to Ch. Nein last night while it was half time in the Lions v Bombers game and Souths v Newcastle was on. Like several other times I've it this season, there was no bugger...

I agree with this. Part of the problem Aussie rugby has had over the last decade or so is the perception of too much focus on x-factor players, especially in the inside backs. Sexton, Pollard and other top flight 10's aren't really in that category, but they have clearly spent many, many hours...

I'm actually none the wiser after reading that article.