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  1. James Pettifer

    Rebels 2017

    That would probably fall under option 1 - keep 5 teams. I suspect SANZAAR will not be particularly happy.
  2. James Pettifer

    Rebels 2017

    Let's be honest. The Brumbies are and always have been on the potential chopping block. There are 4 options (well 5 if you consider leaving super rugby immediately, breaking the broadcast agreement and probably sending the ARU and the franchises into bankruptcy) Keep all 5 teams - apparently...
  3. James Pettifer

    Rebels 2017

    Typically funding occurs through sponsorship The WA government fund the Western Force through road safety The Vic government funds or funded Richmond, Essendon, Collingwood, Geelong and Melbourne Victory through TAC The Vic government funds or funded Western Bulldogs and the Melbourne Victory...
  4. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    That's the sort of deal I'd want! The ARU is supposed to have highly successful business people running it. How no one thought of this most basic concept amazes me.
  5. James Pettifer

    Rebels 2017

    $60 million per year in the Grand Prix Over $10 million per year on the motorbike Grand Prix Almost a billion on not building a road And you think $1-2 million on the Rebels is even going to be noticed
  6. James Pettifer

    Rebels 2017

    Slightly different. Rugby WA have a clause that they will be in the competition as long as the current broadcast arrangement is in place. That is is the contract and the ARU do not disagree with this. If there is a put option in the contract and the Rebels/VRU have followed the right process...
  7. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    This is the state government that spends about $60 million on the Formula 1 race a year and $12 million on the Motorcycle grand prix. I think they can afford a couple of million on rugby. If they have any sense (ie are not the ARU) then they would impose some financial controls on the...
  8. James Pettifer

    Rebels 2017

    Congrats to Jordan being chosen in the Bled Cup squad. Must have been impressive in training given the limited super rugby time he has had. First Melbourne Rebel to grow up in Melbourne (moved at 11 from NZ) to be in the squad. May he be the first of many.
  9. James Pettifer

    Australian Rugby / RA

    Except that argument is #*$&ed. As I posted in the other thread it is To continue giving out money on a year by year basis to whatever franchise needs it without putting in place financial controls is absolutely ludicrous.
  10. James Pettifer

    Rebels 2017

    Is he going to develop into the player lots of us hoped he was going to a few years ago?
  11. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    It was pretty notable that attendances for the Rebels improved when O'Connor and Beale were playing. My wife enjoyed the games more as the play was more exciting (or that was her excuse anyway). But it is a combination between marketability, success and "exciting play" which drives a large...
  12. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Not the greatest example - but note my point above - better players should lead to better earning revenue
  13. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Kinda like if my kid spends all their money ... and so I give them a $100k. Then next year they do the same and I give them another $100k. And the year after and the year after and the year after. At what point do you say, hey hang on, I'm looking at your budget and making sure that this...
  14. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Definitely what the AFL tries to do - particularly when moving into new areas. The other thing to consider is that having better players attracts sponsors and attendance. Better players should (all things being equal) also result in better performance thus attracting sponsors and attendance...
  15. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Agreed. What stuns me is that the ARU have no interest in the finances of any of the franchises other than throwing in an extra $28 million over the past 5 years. Surely if you are the people holding the purse strings you would put some sort of controls in. Maybe not immediately but surely...
  16. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    But they don't. Pure and simple. If they really acted fully in the best interests of the Wallabies then things would be more centralised. You wouldn't have (for example) ARU contracted players without a team Players playing in a different position for their super rugby team v the Australian...
  17. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    What happens normally when you have a salary cap is that players can want to stay in their home city / team but all of them can't because they can't all fit under the salary cap - which is one of the 2 main points (the other being stopping teams from going bankrupt) If we are going to continue...
  18. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    And that then just makes it worse. The Reds were hoping for Hunt to do well enough to get a top up so that they could reduce what they were paying him and thus free money under their salary cap to spend on other players.
  19. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    The Rebels aren't able to realistically compete against the Waratahs when the Waratahs have players who are paid an extra 50% spend on their players. We can't keep our rising stars (Hugh Pyle, Luke Jones, Sean McMahon) because of the overseas offers. There was that year when the Waratahs were...
  20. James Pettifer

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Except that means that the Rebels and Force are _always_ going to have substandard teams (from a pure personal basis). They will then typically finish towards the bottom of the table and will thus get lower sponsorship and lower crowds and thus are more likely to require additional funding...
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