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Rebels have plenty of space. Confirmed to be down 2 locks from last year, 4 in the back row, 1 scrum half, 2 fly half and a full back. They also have a lot of players who have their contract up. There is plenty of space for the "better" super rugby players if they want to stay in...

But the teams don't have full rosters. Most will find positions. Some will go overseas and some will end up out of professional rugby

I agree that the decision was purely made on who they can cut. I also agree that the ARU clearly did not look at all alternatives before cutting. Perhaps if they had raised it before they committed to cutting, they would have realised what a stupid idea it was and how it would impact rugby...

It doesn't offend me. I just think it is a stupid point to raise If you don't want to consider 6 years ago, how about the last 2 years. Force - 8 wins, Rebels - 8 wins and a draw The Force had a decent year and looked to be able to build from that. But the Rebels had 2 decent years and then...

100% agree. I can't see the Force being in Super rugby in 2018. They will start to lose their players. It is probably time to start looking at how to get the Force back in future. Either in Super Rugby in 2019, 2020 or 2021 or in whatever happens after Super Rugby implodes. But this was...

Can we stop with the Force demonstrating "better on-field performances" than the Rebels? The Rebels had a crap year, the Force had a mediocre year. Over their history, both teams have been pretty similar Wins by year 2011 - Force 5, Rebels 3 2012 - Force 3, Rebels 4 2013 - Force 4, Rebels 5...

Perhaps we wait a week or two out of respect before planning on plundering the corpse of WA rugby. I am sure most of the players have their plan B worked out and we will find out soon. For the moment let's support our WA friends in this time.

More likely than not unless Twiggy funds all the players. Let's hope we can get you back in a couple of years (in whatever form top line rugby in Australia is by then)

I hope that we can do something as a community to get the Force back. If not next year then maybe in a couple of years when (say) the Sunwolves leave or the South Africans leave. I hope that you will all return as fans when that happens.

$%]€ No other words.

4PM on the 17th December 2017 ...

Don't worry, we will know in 48-72 hours.

Assume that South Africa go to Europe. Australian rugby collapses and then NZ is stuck by itself (perhaps with Japan and Argentina).

We live in a world where private conversations between world leaders are being leaked to newspapers. All it would take is a call between someone in Melbourne and someone in Perth saying that the arbitration went well.

I suspect they have inside word on the arbitration. Seems like the timing is too coincidental.

The ARU really need to get a better legal team ....

Yeah, but it seems pretty clear that the agreement signed with Imperium meant they can't shut down the Rebels without buying the licence. Cox may have had a price. The VRU don't have any price.

Hahahaha Let's be honest. The Super Rugby crowds across Australia are a travesty for all teams and have dropped massively from half a dozen years ago for all teams. I remember when the Brumbies used to get over 20,000 in the mid 2000's. The Rebels used to get 15,000 or so about 4 years...

Damn. You are right. That proves that there are more rugby fans in Canberra than in Melbourne. GWS Giants v Western Bulldogs - Manuka 14,048 Brumbies v Hurricanes - Quarter Final - GIO Stadium 9775

Definition "an option to sell assets at an agreed price on or before a particular date." Basically our understanding is that the contract had a clause where Imperium could sell to the VRU for $1 without requiring the ARU to approve. But the ARU apparently forgot about this. Seem unlike them...