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Yes, a 2 point win over the New Zealand Rugby Team and then maybe some bigger wins in the north would suit me fine. More than one loss would be a real passion killer.

Jeez, that is like school 3rd XVs!!!

Yeah, we need to start trouncing some people now. Trouncing England will be a good beginning.

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It's a shame Cliffy's sick.

Indeed, precious, my preciousssss....

Yes, Turner and Davies would be an exciting wing combination. Turner, Davies and Beale is a fast back three.

It's funny, you know, but Turner is the prototype Deans winger: very fast, works hard on and off the ball.

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Hugh, we should have a poll. I have always liked option e. Kiwi fans go the full Gollum when you refer to their team as "New Zealand".

I just wish people wouldn't call them the darkness. It is the sound of one Kiwi hand wanking.

Even more confusing is that in the professional era, the first letters of the winning nations have been A SAES, which is Welsh for an Englander.

I have to disagree with that one, Reddy! The kicking competition is always between the players who are picked. Although we may be at cross purposes. I thought you were saying that Giteau is picked because he is the number one goal kicker. That's unlikely to be true, otherwise we would never...

No Reg, someone on PR made it up. But it's ours now.

Turner definitely. Morahan would be more than a big call: he's had an ordinary year and is on tour for development. He probably wouldn't start in a Reds 15. I'd pick Mitchell over JOC (James O'Connor), primarily because he knows where to stand in attack and defence. Barnes, definitely. Chis probably has...

It may not be up to Munster to decide that. Last year the IRU didn't release any test players for midweek games, IIRC.

That is very rarely true in Australian rugby. It sustained Flatley for a while, but Wallaby teams almost always pick the best kicker from the best XV, and often have kicking tests before a game to determine who that is.