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The rather short list of our THPs which show why Holmes and Kepu are still needed.

Numbers for our Hookers:

Have been collating the data for the Aussie Front Rowers and it's not pretty as far as choices for Wallabies selection and work rates compared to our key oppositions. For some time now I've been highlighting that our Front Rowers have a focus on the set piece and have little involvement around...

I suggest that you go back and read #1876 as you will see that on average the Force has only about 10% more Ruck Involvements than the Waratahs The Rebels and the Reds actually have more Ruck Involvements than the Force.

Isn't the purpose of a Forum to air and discuss alternate viewpoints?

The reality over the season is that there is little difference between the average team numbers at the breakdown. The 5 Aussie teams have averaged 2.4 - 2.7 players per Attack Ruck. The 5 Aussie teams have averaged 0.7 - 0.8 players per Defence Ruck. Specific numbers for each team and...

Similar data for Blind Side Flankers. I've included Tui for comparison purposes only. I've included data for both Reid and McMahon. IMO it appears that McMahon compares better as a No6 than No 7 and Reid is more of a No 7. Of concern is that only Fardy and McMahon regularly play full...

Obviously not as the Waratahs were 11 from 16 in 2015 and were 8 from 15 in 2016. The Wallabies, are 0 from 3 in 2016. Is it not just as valid to highlight Hooper's lower work rate in 2016 as it is to say that the lower involvement COULD be part of the Coach's game plan? And to highlight that...

If that's the case then shouldn't we see his Tackle numbers increase? They are about the same as in 2015. So if the Ruck Involvements are down as you suggest then should we see a corresponding increase in other parts of his game?

Isn't the title of this thread Wallabies 2016 and Onwards? The Wallabies have another 12 Tests to play in 2016. Since the June Tests I've found it a bit tragic to see Hooper step aside to let Bernard Foley get involved in a number of breakdowns.

I disagree. The data allows objective comparisons between players and especially of their skill sets and application of same. I reckon Ruck Involvements for a Forward are not negotiable and are a good measure of work rate and putting in for the team. To look at all other stats without the...

G'day BR All data has been collected over the full 17 rounds. Ruck Involvement stats I collect myself. All other stats are grabbed from ESPN Scrum or the SANZAAR Super Rugby site - which seem to be in close agreement. I don't use FoxSports stats as they appear unreliable and don't agree with other...

I have no stats on mauls as none are generally available. I gather the Ruck Involvement stats as they are not available anywhere else. The remainder come from ESPN Scrum or the SANZAAR Suoper Rugby site. There appears to be good agreement between these two site. IMO FoxSports stats are...

It may be useful to move to the Tight 5 with an initial look at Locks. Same data as before plus Line Outs Won (on own throw) & Line Out Stolen. I've also added average minutes played per game as some of these players rarely play for the full 80 minutes. The stats are homogenised to be...

Enjoying the discussion and the differing viewpoints. To assist, here's the same lot of numbers for those currently playing No 8 in Australia. Comments: 1. Have included Adam Thomson to indicate the type of opposition our No 8s are up against. He's had another good year. 2. Have not...

Not a No 8 until he develops some level of reliable Line Out skills and bulks up as he's the same weight as Browning. Otherwise he's just like Pocock in weakening this important set piece.

We have a big problem at number 8. Jed Holloway appears to have the best potential but his defence needs a lot of work. I reckon Curtis Browning has certainly come on with more game time in 2016. He is a bit light for Test Rugby. Any others?

Totally agree, it's what I've been highlighting since last year's TRC, before and during the RWC. But what are we doing about developing the necessary skill sets in our Tight 5. I reckon one product of the ARU Wallabies top-up system is that these players (20-30 of them) are virtually...

If Pooper is the plan - and I'm not saying that it should be - and Pocock gets injured, then why select McMahon over Gill at the cost of losing so much defensive impact? Gill is obviously superior in Ruck Involvements and subsequent TOW. Marginally fewer m/carry but does more with the ball...

Suggest you read points 5 & 6 of my post #1876. Getting back to basics DOES NOT mean going back to a more traditional style of play! Of course we have to match the new opposition. NOT the opposition of 20-30 years ago!