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I don't get this thinking. He's showing no evidence of becoming non-Super level. Rugby fans seem allergic to any age with a 3 in it. I see an invaluable resource that you hang on to. I see this as argy-bargy Brumby-RA. It's stupid because it encourages players like White to go elsewhere. He has...

The Reds, yep. Great game.

Much better discipline for the Reds, it's been a time coming but very good to see. Interestingly the Force dominated m run but had to because Reds dominated territory. This done off slightly fewer kicks in hand by the Reds. Scrum held up much better than I anticipated - I suspect there were...

OK just worked it out.

Weren't the Reds two tries up at that stage?

Well that bench front row is doing fine. Excellent around the ruck. Nice try there.

I thought the assistant ref called the earlier mall infringement

Obstruction though

That was beautiful.

JOC (James O'Connor)'s defence has been good in the 12 slot.

The line out is definitely working, dominant even. But Faeslers throws have been to the chest or lower. The lift is not fully used.

Heggarty is setting up deep. too deep I'd suggest.

Hard work but that'll do.

Sticking with that?

I'm not at all comfortable with our bench front row, and our three locks, wow. I don't actually mind either Uru or even Vest, but not as a starting lock pair. This could be an uncomfortable game.

Ray Hadley, bloke. It's gotta be Ray. He'd fit right in.

OTOH I'm been pretty happy with Faessler this year. Good to see him staying on.

Would have been a supporter of the idea in the past. These days I simply have no faith in NZRU working collaboratively. No that's not it. I have an expectation that NZRU would see themselves as more important than the sport and to work against it unless they could bake in advantages for NZ...

SMI, I normally try to digest the conversation after my post and the response. We are reverting to 2005? Seriously? Mate I love your interest and knowldge in rugby, but honestly we are not apparently on the same planet.

Mate, from recollection you are big on looking and not relying of stats, stories etc. Anyway, I'm not giving it away for you, try some simple google searches if you are serious about wanting the info. Here is however, a single paragraph quote that I did not have to hunt hard for: