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I'm remiss in not saying earlier - full congratulations to the Force, great effort and skill and all-of-80 performance - especially given the horrendous culling debacle.

3 2017 wins from 12 games, - 131 PD. FFS - 'one of the two heartlands of Australian rugby' 5 awful seasons of woeful performance all in a row. Shameful is the word.

Answer to all = crap, inexperienced, inadequate coaching group chosen by an insular, inbred, incompetently governed QRU (plus a number of recruits largely there for a Brisbane Residence Permit).

Now that the data is overwhelming through the Reds 'Appalling Season No 5' can we, the little remaining band of Reds fans, migrate together from the 'Under Stiles we're Rebuilding and Developing' excuse to the now more credible 'this 2017 coaching group is closely rivalling Graham's for very low...

Would guarantee the real crowd is under 10,000.

Joe, partly my point with the post above is that the issues of our base skills, our coaching capability and overall quality, player developmental systems etc cannot be disentangled from a useful debate about 'Where to for Super rugby?' Whatever we do with our place in Super Rugby, and/or...

Gee, if only the real answer to Aus's pro rugby problems was one of comp type and comp structure. Like more 'macro change' alternatives, and less conferences, more teams in less conferences, and more local derbies, and no Japan, and more 'play everyone once' and better domestic comps and FTA...

Hawko - the Reds' 'we need stars and 'prestige' recruits' and we'll pony up the $s for them' team design model of recent years has, in terms of team output and results on the board, been proven as a total dud (as a number of us predicted it would). Part of the problem absolutely has been...

I completely agree. I have said before that if the 'product quality' of our Super teams was at or close to that of NZ's our problems would be dramatically fewer than they are. That's why I become frustrated with discussions here that often to tend to heavily focus on what one might term...

100% Wamberal. The negative trends are very marked and continuing more or less across the board. (I just checked on Ticketek and (a) about 40% of the Suncorp seats for its June Wallaby Test are not even being offered (how far have we fallen!!) and (b) there are vast quantities of seats still...

Kiap - thanks for this. I think one of the deeper elements in all the Aus Super viewing trends (and likely crowds too) - and I cannot prove this! - is that Aus v Kiwi matches here are being further propped up (in relative terms) by the strident love that our large body of Kiwi residents in...

Good observations.

Of course, I disagree. I posted above what the ARU actually declared to the public and their stakeholders (as this is meant to mean something as an act of truth) and what is known to have been essentially agreed by their senior officers pre March 22. You and I have fortunately disagreed on...

Just noting again: not a single one of these directors has a senior managerial track record in pro sports administration or strategy, let alone a demonstrably successful track record in that professional management zone.

^^^^ @IS The other related piece of data in that same article refers to badly deteriorating financial metrics at Foxtel - rapidly declining earnings and RPU. News Corp writing its Foxtel stake's value down materially etc. Telstra holding its stake at zero value. I think it's safe to say the...

The mods seem 'a bit down' on this excellent thread. As if it's affecting climate change or something psychically important to work-life balances. How's about kicking off the counter-type thread as they used to be here, some ideas: ARU Positivity Thread Super Rugby: Looking Towards a Great...

And much thanks for that reference QH. Let's just quote precisely what it (for the ARU directors) says, as of March 22, 2017 (my added emphasis) in the 2016 ARU Annual Report: The above form of declaration - far broader than relating just to formal board decisions and includes reference to...

FFS. Never did I entertain any notion re this matter to justify this idle facetiousness. It surely won't win the argument at hand. I discussed the matter with a poster who raised IMO a very legitimate point as to why the decision to cull a full Super should not have been in some way mentioned...

That's not correct in terms of the relevant standard (which must be read carefully and with the multiple worked examples that accompany it) but no more to discuss here.

You're not serious are you, and after reading AASB 110 which you helpfully quote from above? (Just btw IIRC the London meeting was around March 8 or so, 2 weeks prior to March 22 as you note above as the Accounts sign-off date.) The materiality of a potential cull of Super 1 team could quite...