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Resting their main AB players aren't they?

^^^^^ To me the essential question re the heavily rumoured move of TT to Ballymore to 'support and mentor' Stiles is why we have (after a 'global search') a Reds HC (in an absolutely critical period for the Reds) that needs this 'support and mentoring' from another ex-HC? What successful Super...

I see the latest Payto & Panda speculation is that soon Cox will exit the 'financially draining' Rebels, transfer licence to the 'Govt-backed' VRU..........and ARU will support all this in part as Cox will quid pro quo drop his damages suit vs the ARU...

FWIW I saw Bond U play Brothers at Brothers a few weeks back and BU was impressive in defeating Brothers. Many skilful players and great tactics, played with obvious conviction and passion.

That may be true BR. If it is it would be illegal under the Trade Practices Act as as it would clearly be trapped by the TPA's 'false and misleading' conduct provisions re those persons or bodies so declaring these falsely inflated numbers in that any reasonable person hearing of or reading...

What a despicable disgrace if so. Knowingly misleading - more like deceiving - sponsors and fans. But note my reference above to 2009 crowd figures was of course pre J Carmichael's arrival.

All the omens at present dru are that: - Stiles and the whole Reds Assistants group will stay as is, where is....... and - Totality Tony - fresh off sustained success in Melbourne - will come to Ballymore in 2018 and provide uniquely valuable 'support and mentoring' to Stiles aka totally...

And WCR, as you'd recognise, once the dominoes start to fall - if they do - with more RSA departures from S1x Rugby then the calculus for what NZ Rugby needs to do protect its interests and the strength of the AB playing stocks and brand changes immeasurably.

I completely agree gel. Additionally, I think Moore is way past it and has been at best a mediocre Reds Captain when doing so. Kerevi is IMO very prematurely promoted to that role and it will not assist or enhance has development as a player (just as btw Hooper's premature promotion as...

JP - this one is of interest as well - rumours swirling out of RSA that potentially the Sharks may explore a move out of the S1x and a relocation to an EU-based comp. Just rumours I know, but something is quietly brewing at the edges of pro rugby in RSA and it may well be an undisclosed...

amirite - you make some very good points. Without question, THE single greatest failing of the ARU in the last 10-15 hears has been the abject non-construction of a proper strategy and fully resourced development pathway for the attainment of excellence in, and an adequate number of, rugby...

Well worth a read: Is SARU playing it much smarter, and more strategically, than most realise........plus the stats on TV fall-off in recent years' Super numbers are staggering: https://www.alloutrugby.com/pro14-all-part-of-the-saru-plan/

Oh please, too snide mate. I didn't post this to secure Likes or otherwise re Devine as such. It's the increasing pervasiveness of this type of assessment in the mainstream media that catches the eye and will have impact in the broader community. You may dislike Devine on personal grounds but...

Miranda Devine gets stuck right into the ARU and much related: http://beta.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/what-the-heck-is-going-on-with-australian-rugby-union/news-story/75e2439e1be72d35c4ab5c4de5a08429

I think this is exactly what they should be doing, squad-wise. Build up from the bottom with new promising talent, ditch the old stagers, money-grabbers and faded-glory stars asap and then.... .....get L Gill back as Captain asap and then..... ......rapidly re-build the coaching group in...

Pure gold.

Hey gel - do you recall that Link bought 'Chook' Fowler into the Reds' broadly-based and rather complete coaching group in 2010? We can both relate to that. Fowler is a sports and team psychologist as well as being adept in game strategy, kicking, inter alia. Every top coach that's ever...

I respect your theory - 'they the players must and can be responsible for their own mental application' - and a certain factually-based nostalgia for past deeds. But in a number of ways, the past is a different place. Back then the Wallabies were kind of equal to the ABs for a while, now we...

Rather 'interesting' reams of data re 2017 Super crowds, viewership etc from Wayne Smith in today's The Australian online. Read it and weep. Extract: Crowd and television viewing figures for Australian Super Rugby have plummeted over the past two years though, ironically, the Western...