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I'm pretty sure Horwil, Lucas, Tapuai & Ioane are at least locked in for next year Troy & Holmes has stated in the past that he'd never play for another team in Australia. I know the Fainga'a's signed a new deal last year but unsure if it was just for one season or not.

Is Butler a 7 though? I understood he was a lock or blindside flanker. He had a nice little cameo against the Hurricanes a couple of weeks back.

I'm pretty sure he told his boss way before the press conference.... Horwill has said he knew since the beginning of the season. The press conference was probably put into place to have everything up front for all concerned & to minimise distraction to the team. And @ Jets, all the important...

Really? Why? Do you think Link is full of shit when he told reporters that they love a good conspiracy theory, when asked if he was going to Ireland? Or his reasoning as to why he has come out & said it now? Look, you lot can speculate until your hearts content, I'll believe what the man...

But he can still put his name out there whilst still coaching the Reds. Seriously there are too many conspiracy theorists around these days. Why can't what Ewen put forth as his reasoning be taken at face value?

Or it's just as Link says and he's made the announcement now to give the Reds clarity in the coaching stakes. I'd say this is the most likely scenario.

I do & I had him as my captain.... time for a rethink

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I agree it doesn't matter in the overall scheme of things, however it does skew the ladder until all teams have had the bye. And yes, theoretically you are correct.

I don't know which ladder you're looking at Slim. But from fifth to thirteenth position equals 8 spots in my world. Pos Team P W D L F A PD B Pts 1. Brumbies 4 4 0 0 118 35 83 3 23 2. Chiefs 4 3 0 1 155 90 65 5 17 3. Bulls 4 3 0 1 108 105 3 1 13 4. Blues 3 2 0 1 89 56 33 3 15 5. Reds 5 3 0 2...

Yeah, but the Reds are still 8 places above them on the ladder.

I'm find it rather sad the amount of Tah fans that wouldn't normally comment on a Reds thread suddenly come out of the woodwork to fling dung when there's an upset loss. Sad, but not surprised.

You wish! It leaves them with one win less for the year than they should have had. Not winless losers!

Well played Force, the forwards were immense & knocked the Reds pack down a notch or two from previous weeks performances. Enjoy the services of McMenimen while you can, I can't wait to see him back in Red next year ;-) Reds backs were pretty clueless & the whole team had a bad case of fumbles...

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Lucas probably needs some time to get his shoulder right, reckon he was only on the bench last week in case of an emergency.

Was the first thing that came to my mind to! :-)

Well it was early in the morning & I was hungry :oops:

Remember the flogging at Lang Park on a bright Sunday afternoon in 2011... or was it 2010, when a Van inspired Reds took it to those *#%!'s? I seem to recall another large score put on them in the early Force years, but that could just be a wishful memory. Most other games have been close.

Reds by 45