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  1. Rugby Central

    Shute Shield 2013

    DB - I'm not sure if you're involved in Junior Rugby in Sydney but the development of junior players is non existent from a Shute Shield Club level. You will never see them turn up to Junior's matches, you don't see them do anything. They go to the private schools and recruit from there. The...
  2. Rugby Central

    Shute Shield 2013

    Actually Coach, it's the same choice the rest of us get. I work for a business in Sydney. While they like to offer the work/life balance, I can't just live wherever I want to do my job. Let alone offer my services to anyone of my choosing while they pay my salary. If you want to build a local...
  3. Rugby Central

    Shute Shield 2013

    You mean those Randwick juniors Campesie and Gregan???? The Brumbies academy paid for someone else to develop the Faainga brothers. Then there's the players told by Waratah's management they'll never be good enough - Pat McCabe for example. The ACT contribution might be small but is a truck...
  4. Rugby Central

    Shute Shield 2013

    While most of your post is interesting and informed this particular comment is bollocks. What better way to develop local rugby out side of Sydney and Brisbane than to have the Super Rugby players and Wallabies available to the local clubs. Clubs are more likley to get crowd numbers, sponsors an...
  5. Rugby Central

    Sydney Shake Up

    Just as a differnet approach how about shortening the season. Not in duration but games. Play 8 clubs per division with more bye weeks and players will have more time to recover or have time off. It's sometimes easy to forget that rugby is fairly low on many guys priorities and they just can't...
  6. Rugby Central

    Sydney Shake Up

    "Rugby News" going, ABC coverage possibly going...this is fantastic news. It looks like Sydney Rugby is on its way to rock bottom. Finally those in charge might acknowledge there's a problem......but probably not. How's this for delusional...
  7. Rugby Central

    Sydney Shake Up

    No, I was somewhere else. How's that for appalling that it happened in at least 2 places. I won't name the club involved but what was funny is that even with ring-ins it wasn't convincing -------------- Here's a thought, this one for subbies, drop a team from every division except 6th. It's...
  8. Rugby Central

    Sydney Shake Up

    Forget Boundries etc. I saw to shining examples of why rugby in Sydney is in decline. On Saturday I watched a Subbies side stacked with Shute Shield players. If that wasn't bad enough, the ref let high shot after high shot go. As some spectators said, "Why would anybody want to play rugby if...
  9. Rugby Central

    Sydney Shake Up

    I can't speak for the AFL but have you ever known the NSW Rugby Clubs to work together harmoniously. I don't think you would have to look too far to have one of the participants make it a problem.
  10. Rugby Central

    Sydney Shake Up

    Could be good but that ship has sailed. With the payments made to SS players, it means that any restriction in movement would amount to "restraint of trade"
  11. Rugby Central

    Sydney Shake Up

    Not entirely sure IS but I do remember travelling out to Penrith in 1996 when playing Shute Shield. So in at least 17 years they have progressed little. If you want to develop something you have to make the investment. When the AFL moved into competitors regions (Sydney/Brisbane) they provided...
  12. Rugby Central

    Sydney Shake Up

    IS, you're right about Colleagues and Easts being next to each other. I was using those clubs as an example of Subbies clubs that dominate swapping with Shute Shield Clubs that struggle. I agree Campbelltown is an ideal development opportunity and nothing should be ruled out. My reason for...
  13. Rugby Central

    Sydney Shake Up

    How about dumping Gordon and Penrith from Shute Shield and putting up Colleagues and Drummoyne. It's obvious that the later are far better run than the former and it will put the wind up the rest of the Shute Shield to get their house in order. It might rob the west and north of teams in...
  14. Rugby Central

    NSW Suburban Rugby 2012

    Can anyone explain what happened at Blackmore Park on Saturday? Well done Shammies. Barbarian, What happenned. KOBS were looking goods at the start of the year, now there's a chance of heading out the wrong end..."say it ain't so"
  15. Rugby Central

    NSW Suburban Rugby 2012

    Update: There is no 4th Division and Chatswood stepped down from 5 to 6. 12 teams in Div 3 and 6 Got to feel sorry for Iggies facing off against Drummoyne then Campbelltown in first 2 matches. If they survive these first 2 games with few injuries it should set them up nicely. Conversely, a...
  16. Rugby Central

    John I Dent Cup and ACT competition - 2012

    Not at all, but it would be a brave person to suggest the English league is "Mickey Mouse"
  17. Rugby Central

    NSW Suburban Rugby 2012

    If you have money to burn then it's far better to pay an administrator than a player. For any poor bugger who's taken on a coaching or committee role, add between 20-30 hours to your working week. With just one full-time administrator supported by committee; chasing up players, organising...
  18. Rugby Central

    A new tier of rugby in Qld

    The irony is it would be cheaper and far more effective to reinstitute a decent representative program than the stupid academies. As the cream floats to the top you only have to invest time and money into proven performers. It makes talent identification much easier and State Unions spend...
  19. Rugby Central

    A new tier of rugby in Qld

    The trade-off is they don't have to bother. The academy system means that for every player that leaves, they just go to the academy sales floor and pick out what they need. No cost of development, no investment at the community level, no care for the average rugby fan and no loyalty to...
  20. Rugby Central

    Shute Shield 2012

    Heard 2 rumours. Can anyone confirm? 1. Gordon has $700,000 gone missing due to "creative accounting" 2. All Shute Shield clubs will be reduced to 2 Senior grades and 1 Colts in 2013 or 2014 to limit costs.....and keep Parramata and Penrith in the comp. The ramifications of this are so big...
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