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Well, hopefully. Hopefully the Lions and RWC are the catalyst we need to turn it all around and we can find a way to stop bleeding money and talent.

Does that position actually hold once you apply scrutiny to the respective positions of those unions when they conceded those losses? Both England and SA have had much firmer foundations on which to rebuild/recover from IMO.

I wonder if even the ex-pat Kiwis can muster enough fucks to trundle out for this shit.

We don't. It's just Marce having a jolly. Fact is we have second rate athletes and it shows.

Robertson is a LHP...

They are already making moves to improve their situation by ditching us entirely.

Is it, though?

We have plenty of these kinds of athletes playing more lucrative sports.

Yeah I watched the AB V Saffa games last night and Kolbe is very physical and surprisingly powerful in contact. I don't think he's a good comparison to someone like Jorgensen.

God damn that's a shellacking. Wow.

Doesnt seem like the right time of year for it?

I agree we lack size but there is still space for smaller, nimble players as well. I contend that we currently have neither size nor pace and only a little guile (in the mould of Tom Wright).

You would need a centralised model to ensure competition anyway, no? Otherwise the spread of Wallabies would inevitably end up skewed to just a few teams. Though I note this is basically Leinster.

I think this is wrong and you can see it being played out at Wallaby level right now. We have a serviceable if not spectacular tight five but absolutely no talent in the backline and its quite clearly holding us back. I get that its a popular truism of rugby that 'forwards win you games' but...

Geez we should be throwing the kitchen sink at keeping Ryan. He seems the best outside back prospect we have at the moment?

That is also a Swain trait. Maybe he just wants one ill-disciplined lock in his ranks.

Are the ABs good enough to completely discard players after one lost tour these days?

Meh, isn't the SANZAAR/RC agreement done come 2030? They'll throw us a token bone and be gone post 2030. Which probably makes sense since we are nearly destitute. NZRU are fluffybunnys but you can hardly expect them to act in anything other than self interest. We'd give NZ the flick in a heartbeat if...

Is Swain completely out of the squad?

Fairly regularly... Pietsch was on the bench for the first two tests this year.