Where to for Twiggy Rugby?
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The status quo they were competing against involved the players getting paid close to nothing for their services. It's not really a relevant comparison.
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Cyril Towers (30)
the point is "how it starts" is not how it finishes.
Again, comparing to World Series Cricket just sets yourself up for disappointment.
It's an unfair comparison on so many levels, but it also creates the expectation this competition will be a complete 'game changer' that will alter the future of rugby as a code.
When I say that won't happen, I'm not 'death riding' the competition by any means. I'm just ensuring we don't set ourselves up for a huge disappointment.
I want this competition to succeed, but my idea of success seems a bit different to others. That's fine, but if you think the IPRC is going to be an all-star, game changing concept you are more than likely going to end up disappointed.
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It's an unfair comparison on so many levels, but it also creates the expectation this competition will be a complete 'game changer' that will alter the future of rugby as a code.
When I say that won't happen, I'm not 'death riding' the competition by any means. I'm just ensuring we don't set ourselves up for a huge disappointment.
I want this competition to succeed, but my idea of success seems a bit different to others. That's fine, but if you think the IPRC is going to be an all-star, game changing concept you are more than likely going to end up disappointed.
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Killer
Cyril Towers (30)
I don't think it is going to smash all competition.
But I do believe given 5 years it will be serious competition to the likes of Super Rugby.
The ARU may be spending a lot of money now, for little return, but will those revenue streams be there in the near future.
Also once Clyne abdicates I believe the ARU will jump on board with Twiggy.
Edit: And Clyne will go down in history as the architect of the biggest Aust Rugby cluster of all time.
But I do believe given 5 years it will be serious competition to the likes of Super Rugby.
The ARU may be spending a lot of money now, for little return, but will those revenue streams be there in the near future.
Also once Clyne abdicates I believe the ARU will jump on board with Twiggy.
Edit: And Clyne will go down in history as the architect of the biggest Aust Rugby cluster of all time.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
If they manage to get near those figures within the first 5-10 years then that would be great. But it will take at least that time frame.
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Michael Lynagh (62)
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For me it's a team of young Western Australians, maybe with a few O/S veterans thrown in, playing against other young club players in the Asia-Pacific. I even think NRC standard will be a bit much to hope for, and a comp about the standard of the Shute Shield is more realistic.
Considering that in every stated plan in regards to player pools they have made mention of recruiting extensively from outside of the potential markets I don't think something akin to NRC is all that unrealistic. And should certainly be what they are aiming for.
For me it's a team of young Western Australians, maybe with a few O/S veterans thrown in, playing against other young club players in the Asia-Pacific. I even think NRC standard will be a bit much to hope for, and a comp about the standard of the Shute Shield is more realistic.
Considering that in every stated plan in regards to player pools they have made mention of recruiting extensively from outside of the potential markets I don't think something akin to NRC is all that unrealistic. And should certainly be what they are aiming for.
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Jim Clark (26)
I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of merger in competition between TwiggyRugby, SuperRugby and the NRC. Interest in SuperRugby has fallen off a cliff over the past 5-10 years.
May depend on what South Africa want to do. Of course the South Africa Pro14 option isn't exactly doing brilliantly: under 3000 to see the Kings lose to Ulster, under 6000 for the Cheetahs to lose to Glasgow, about 4600 for the Cheetahs beating Ospreys. Only one game about 7000 which was the Cheetahs beating Zebra with just under 14000.
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Simon Poidevin (60)
I reckon we really need to re-calibrate what a successful competition looks like
Aviva Premiership and Top 14 average around 13,000 a game.
Japan's Top League averages 5 to 6,000
The NRL averages about 15,000.
The are only starting with 5 home games a year which is really going to limit the earning potential of the comp and ability to employ players full time (but I don't think they will want to do that anyway, at least initially)
Aviva Premiership and Top 14 average around 13,000 a game.
Japan's Top League averages 5 to 6,000
The NRL averages about 15,000.
The are only starting with 5 home games a year which is really going to limit the earning potential of the comp and ability to employ players full time (but I don't think they will want to do that anyway, at least initially)
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Chilla Wilson (44)
Which doesn't really dispel the liquidity point.
Dividends can be payed out a number of ways, not just cash, and this was paid to his company, not him.
He obviously has plenty of money, but being worth $4.2billion by valuation does not mean he can come up with 400million tomorrow.
Lets say you're worth $1million dollars (if I add together the equity in your house, car, business, etc.). You'd still struggle to come up with $100k (and part with it). This is a similar ratio to Forrest coming up with $400 million.
is it? I wasn't aware of that. When did that happen?
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Cyril Towers (30)
he could loan it in 2 seconds flat with zero affect on his lifestyle. Reg I have also read somewhere that they are sponsoring the NRC though am not sure when it started or if it has, maybe next year? The amount I read was 200k.
they might want to try to get some awareness of it out there.
http://www.rugbyaustralia.com.au/NRC.aspx
http://www.rugbyaustralia.com.au/NRC.aspx
Killer
Cyril Towers (30)
Maybe it is another cunning Twiggy plan so that they have to continue to include The Spirit but are still running at a big net loss thus increasing the financial pressure. "doing them slowly"
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
They're not......... Twiggy has stated that Minderoo would sponsor the NRC if the ARU approves of his competition.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
Well, they've approved the competition.
time for Mr Forrest to make good then!
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Are they going to be building brand new 50K seat stadiums to accommodate these massive crowds?
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Cyril Towers (30)
Well you won't need them for Super Rugby that's for sure.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Because the stadiums don't exist?
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