Where to for Super Rugby?
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Not necessarily. DraftKings in the US get around their anti gambling laws with some legal mumbo jumbo about technically not being gambling somehow. May just have an opening for other kinds of advertising dependent on the strength of the law.
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Tony Shaw (54)
Yes, the great, repetitive, abiding, disaster-inducing myth guiding so much of recent Australian rugby's so-called 'strategy' ............
............ namely: 'we just need to expand the quantity of players and playing games and have more club players playing with 'elite' players and that will enhance and ensure the destiny of the code's success'...........
Wrong. Very, very wrong. That's a self-adoring institutional ego-trip, not a strategy.
The key to a successful strategy for rugby as a niche sport is a bottom-up driven enhanced quality of play and players, enhanced skills, enhanced ensemble excellence, enhanced consistency of skill execution, ensuring in aggregate the kind of dynamic, wonderfully skilful attacking style of rugby the Kiwi Super teams are displaying as they have worked for a decade or more to get to this level of consistent quality of skills and skills execution.
To achieve that outcome, the quality of coaching at all levels of the game is the most important variable for attention, growth and investment.
This is the required core priority and it's the one we have almost totally neglected as we expanded held-long into fast-expanded new markets and over-extended competitions.
Quantitative expansion is only wise and viable if it's closely paralleled by the expansion of the system-wide, all-levels capacity for excellence in the best practices of rugby coaching. So you only expand quantitatively once you are sure you possess and can afford the depth of resources to expand qualitatively and thus quantity and quality are in relative harmony and balance.
If our derby games were anything even approaching the quality of rugby Kiwi Super teams are playing today, the code in this country would be in reasonable to good shape, fan-wise and financially.
NZ understood the need for and thus made deep investments in skills development and coaching excellence, bottom-up, system-wide not a tiny handful of specialists in a distant elite unit divorced from the rugby the kids play as the sausages sizzle, winter draws in, and the mums and dads cheer on.
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Steve Williams (59)
Was Live Sports Broadcast not just an exception to the general "No Gambling Advertising before 8.30pm" Law in the first place, which means that loopholes (games of "Skill" notwithstanding) will probably be few and far between?
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Peter Johnson (47)
Actually in some respects there is a rich irony in this. The all want the ARU to run the show but constantly attack and criticise the ARU. No one has any good idea nor will agree on anything. Look at the SS V NSWRU V ARU as example and that does not even include the Super Rugby issues. Not that I am defending the ARU who themselves have shown they can't manage much.
IMHO the reality is all this mob (yes its a big net I cast) have been involved for years and we have still ended up here and no idea what to do except blame, talk, and play politics. If ever it screamed a time to get new blood in and all the old mob step way its no.
Maybe 2017 will be the year Rugby finally gets professional and steps away from the old amateur ways (people included) that have got us here.
But I doubt it.
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To be fair, it's part of the ARU corporate governance to facilitate communication between member unions and stakeholders and establish a blueprint for growth, many of the issues apparent in the SS v NSWRU v ARU is due to the ARU's own inability to govern the code effectively
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David Wilson (68)
You have my undying admiration for even considering buying a ticket for this match.
I hope that you didn't go through with the purchase. It's now half-time (in keeping with G&GR rules I won't give score or potential result), but I think you;ve saved yourself a bit of money and a bit of heartache.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Th thing that pisses me off is there is no actual desire from anyone in the ARU to fix it - if they truly were 'fans of rugby' they would actually give a fuck and do something about it instead of chugging glasses of Chardonnay
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John Thornett (49)
Just buy general admission and sit where you want. You could probably put on a random lanyard and sit with the team. No one would realise.
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David Codey (61)
And bring your boots and your mouth guard, who knows,you will probably improve things....
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Possibly the scope and nature of the problems is beyond the present administration or its replacement.
At the moment it is where do you start and how long will this take to resolve a process that moves the game at grassroots ( hit by Round Up), school boys losing numbers and schools that play ( what support for the teams in the Waratah shield and associated competitions -- some of our future best will play here ), village rugby , Shute and then the $80 tickets when I can play less by sitting in a pub.
No atmosphere I hear you say. They maybe more people in the pub than at the game and you can get a cheap and varied supply of good beer and food. You don't even get wet in the rain.
How long? How long is a piece of .....
At the moment it is where do you start and how long will this take to resolve a process that moves the game at grassroots ( hit by Round Up), school boys losing numbers and schools that play ( what support for the teams in the Waratah shield and associated competitions -- some of our future best will play here ), village rugby , Shute and then the $80 tickets when I can play less by sitting in a pub.
No atmosphere I hear you say. They maybe more people in the pub than at the game and you can get a cheap and varied supply of good beer and food. You don't even get wet in the rain.
How long? How long is a piece of .....
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This is what I have never got, is it ARU that sets the pricing of tickets because of their ridiculous Wallabies ticketing?
Because for any of the Aussie teams at the moment, why don't they just follow something like the Bundesliga model where you can get a ticket for 5 euro. Hell, at this stage, why don't you just make general admission free or some nominal amount and maybe the Platinum & Golds 50% off. Get people in the gate for a few games and get some buzz and potentially future members.
Take the cuts from beers and food at the venue for short term revenue but hopefully grow that long term revenue by not overcharging for what, at the moment, isn't a great product.
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Jimmy Flynn (14)
Nope, after waying up the performances after the past few weeks and realising how little respect the code has for the paying public (high ticket prices, poor food and drink options for 80 minutes of footy) I decided not to go through with the $160 purchase.
In the end I was glad after the great afternoon I had at TG Milner.
Great food (Chinese inside the clubhouse, $5.20 schooners) 4 games of footy for $15.
Plus the 1st grade was an Absolutely sensational game of rugby!
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Nothing wrong with chugging glasses of nice, not-too-much-oaked chardonnay. A nice Adelaide Hills or Margaret River Chardy will do. But it tastes so much better when one has stumped for it oneself.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
This is just insane. I've sat behind the posts at Allianz before and it was actually one of the top rugby experiences I've had. They need to be getting people in those seats, not trying to force them into the corners for an extra $20.
Behind the posts is ace, especially with the Giant Screen-O-Max2000 ™.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
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