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Where to for Super Rugby?

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Cpt Crow Eater

Chris McKivat (8)
Found this article from 2015...


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11450491

A few snippets....

".......There is no real, desperate incentive for the franchises to fill their stadiums, to compete in a market, to find ways of keeping great players, because the squillion dollar broadcasting contract which derives most of its value from the All Blacks keeps them afloat. If the cold winds of reality were really blowing in rugby faces, we would have a decent Auckland football stadium already. But rugby dawdles along, with 8000 bored-sounding people in its 50,000 capacity cathedral."
Rugby is about to get its comeuppance in Auckland, where the Warriors are finally poised to surge under new chief executive Jim Doyle. He does have to answer to people - owners Eric Watson and Owen Glenn. But as a unit, the Warriors can act decisively, and are responsible for their own bottom line.
In contrast, the NZR is afraid to let go, because it doesn't trust anyone else in looking after the elite players. It thought winning the World Cup was a panacea, a state funded one at that.
For a health check, look at all the empty seats in Wellington for what should have been a glamour clash between the Hurricanes and Chiefs on Saturday night.

Throw in confounding rules, endless delays in matches, and a rising population of people with fascinating entertainment choices and ways of communicating, and you have a national game in danger. The NZR does face tough issues and the answers are far from simple. But it must try. Rugby needs to attract dynamic and diverse people with the power and incentive to act. The All Blacks won't prop the game up forever.


Even the Kiwis saw trouble coming and they're winning everything!

When the national team wins, everything's ok. When they start playing badly, this whole top down ponzi scheme of a business model falls over.

When David Beckham and his cohorts teamed up to put a football team in Miami, they had an agreement to build a $200 million stadium specific for the team.

Imagine that kind of investment in a sydney club......
 

I like to watch

David Codey (61)
Hans Sauer, President of Rugby WA with Alan Jones again:
http://www.2gb.com/podcast/hans-sauer-2/

So the ARU are now only communicating with them through their lawyers.
Very frustrating to listen to him.
Instead of asking for details, when told about ARU lawyers being adversarial,
He turns Sauer volume down and goes into a ridiculous rant.

In fairness to the ARU, what are they going to say?
We made a stupid decision with little thought to the consequences, and we think scrapping you guys is our easiest way out of the mess?
 

Twoilms

Trevor Allan (34)
Rattue is a flaky, closet League, dipstick with an agenda against the NZRU ever since they overlooked Deans in 2011. He's best ignored by everyone.

Most Rugby journalists are horrible and probably do more to contribute to the waning of the games popularity than they do to support it.
 

John S

Chilla Wilson (44)
To be fair its not the job of the trade union to tell the employer how to run their factory profitably

Like that actually stops the unions doing just that. But that's another issue.

To be fair to RUPA, they were created to stick up for the players and they've done that. Last I heard from them, they were definitely being vocal about keeping five teams.
 

oztimmay

Tony Shaw (54)
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Contained within that inevitably depressing piece is the interesting tidbit that there is a notably declining reference from any quarter to any talk of the Rebels being culled.

This - cull the Force, path of least complexity and resistance - was just set-up all along.


Yep noted that too. Whether that's an observation from Wayne Smith or a part of the overall narrative, I'm not really sure. However, it's certainly telling in the media that I'm reading. Even the ARU mouthpiece isn't really talking about hem being cut.

Ties back into something said last night in this thread (I think it was Killer), noting a post on the TWF forum that Foxtel's preference is for the Force to be chopped.
 

RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
Yep noted that too. Whether that's an observation from Wayne Smith or a part of the overall narrative, I'm not really sure. However, it's certainly telling in the media that I'm reading. Even the ARU mouthpiece isn't really talking about hem being cut.

Ties back into something said last night in this thread (I think it was Killer), noting a post on the TWF forum that Foxtel's preference is for the Force to be chopped.

Saw that - but really it was speculation in those pages, not established fact by any means.

Btw: is it not beyond belief that the ARU, like an angry child, could waste time in these circumstances arguing about whether to meet RugbyWA in Sydney or Perth. FFS - what about the staff and players' welfare?

And surely Smith's reference to a potential 'compromise meeting location' in Ceduna SA was a joke, please reassure me it was.
 

oztimmay

Tony Shaw (54)
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Saw that - but really it was speculation in those pages, not established fact by any means.

Btw: is it not beyond belief that that ARU, like an angry child, could waste time in these circumstance arguing about whether to meet RugbyWA in Sydney or Perth. FFS - what about the staff and players' welfare?

And surely Smith's reference to a potential 'compromise meeting location' in Ceduna SA was a joke, please reassure me it was.


Got I hope it was. If it ever gets to that level, please shoot me...
 

Omar Comin'

Chilla Wilson (44)
Would I be wrong to assume that Rugby WA isn't paying a cent for its legal representation? What about the ARU? Who would want to represent the bad guys pro bono?
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
A little bit more googling and Brett Robinson is currently in the employ of the Bank of Queensland as a Specialist CEO; whatever that is

Guess who is the Chairman of the Bank of Queensland, none other than New South Wales Rugby Union and Waratahs chairman Roger Davis.

The gene pool is dry!
Guess who has taken on another gig now.

Whitecoat to take him away?

Former NAB chief Cameron Clyne to chair Whitecoat

April 27 2017​
SMH: Clancy Yeates​

Former National Australia Bank chief Cameron Clyne is returning to the business world as chair of health insurer-backed website Whitecoat, as it seeks to bring greater competition and transparency to the health care sector.​

In his first post-NAB board role outside the not-for-profit sector and the Australian Rugby Union, Mr Clyne will lead the inaugural board of a start-up that aims to be "TripAdvisor for health care".​

… "I've always been very interested in competition, and certainly when I was involved in banking that's something I tried to drive as much as possible," Mr Clyne said in an interview with BusinessDay. …​


It's time to take on more opportunities with everything going swimmingly and under control at the ARU.

Either that or he is about to cut and run again.
 
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