Where to for Super Rugby?

[wamberal]

An empty stadium broadcast to the world would be highly embarrassing to the ARU. The power of embarrassment is a great one.

To whom? All the loyal fans throughout the nation who support the Wallabies?


Yeah, right.

 

[Highlander35]

Fifa want them to implement changes with complete disregard to the Australian sporting landscape.

All of which seem to be reasonable, at least from my opinion, and they've had 14 years since they re-constituted to get to the point of implementation.

But this isn't about the FFA's suck ups, it's about the ARU's

 

[Bandar]

I am actually waiting for someone to consider the possibility (very real based on the current arrangement) of the Pert Spirt and Fiji Drua jumping ship from the NRC to Twiggys comp

Not only the Drua and Spirit but with Eastwood taking 100% control of the Rams I reckon they are also eying it off...

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Interesting very interesting but by no means unexpected.

This old saying maybe apt for the ARU today.

"" Win the battle, lose the war"""

While I have been reluctantly critical is the ARU I do think they have been smart in supporting tf new competition as this will only help oz rugby and remove our reliance on the rather challenged super rugby product. Does not sound like new competition will be ready for next year but hopefully year after.


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[Moono75]

To whom? All the loyal fans throughout the nation who support the Wallabies?


Yeah, right.

It would embarrass the ARU, it would generate discussion. The majority of people outside of WA will be watching the game on TV so it doesn't effect them.

If you don't think the ARU would be embarrassed by seeing an empty stadium then you are missing the point.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

An empty stadium broadcast to the world would be highly embarrassing to the ARU. The power of embarrassment is a great one.

Better would be a sea of blue with protest banners. As to the rest of the world they would just see ARU decision to dump the Force with empty stadium as proof correct decision. Plus you have Force players playing for the wallabies in their home state who deserve your support. I agree with hodgo that better to go to the game suitably attired re: force jursey and wallaby scarf


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[mst]

I am actually waiting for someone to consider the possibility (very real based on the current arrangement) of the Pert Spirt and Fiji Drua jumping ship from the NRC to Twiggys comp

Not only the Drua and Spirit but with Eastwood taking 100% control of the Rams I reckon they are also eying it off.

The list goes on Vikings as well.

 

[Derpus]

It would embarrass the ARU, it would generate discussion. The majority of people outside of WA will be watching the game on TV so it doesn't effect them.

If you don't think the ARU would be embarrassed by seeing an empty stadium then you are missing the point.

They are used to it now mate.

 

[Slim 293]

All of these NRC level teams could hypothetically jump ship and join this competition........ but what players would they field?

I don't think Twiggy's pipe dream could rival Super Rugby, let alone the NRC, as the options of teams/players able to participate would be very narrow and not of a very high quality.

 

[dru]

Seriously though, what is "the way that it is" then?

I just don't see how the people that lose out the most by fans turning their back on the game are firstly the players and secondly the fans.

The people who lose out least are those that people most want to punish.

Braveheart - I'm not particularly disagreeing with your background or assessment. Just that this time it's pushed over a line where I am uncomfortable supporting the ARU.

 

[dru]

I don't think Twiggy's pipe dream could rival Super Rugby, let alone the NRC, as the options of teams/players able to participate would be very narrow and not of a very high quality.

Not in 2018. In time who knows? I'm liking Twiggy's talk, a lot. Proof of the pudding is not now, obviously, but I wish him all the luck that I simply can NOT offer to Clyne.

 

[Slim 293]

Not in 2018. In time who knows? I'm liking Twiggy's talk, a lot. Proof of the pudding is not now, obviously, but I wish him all the luck that I simply can NOT offer to Clyne.

Although I don't support the ARU, I simply can't lay blind trust in a character like Twiggy to be the saviour of the game nationally.........

 

[mst]

When you consider the possibility of a Twiggy competition and the potential effects to the rugby landscape it paints an interesting potential scenario.

So logically the best teams to target for Twiggy are the privately licensed NRC team (ironically the ARU wanted the private licences). So that means all NSW team and ACT team as well as the Fiji team and Spirt. The Rising potentially may have some interest based on the current bad blood.

So, knowing that the Super Rugby is now the poison chalice and is time limited its interesting what would be left under the ARU umbrella and those of the State unions.

So the ACT would have the Brumbies in Super Rugby with a potential short term future.

The Tahs are in the same place as the Brumbies with only a Super Rugby licence

The Reds (QLD) are left with a Super Rugby licence, and 2x NRC teams which may collapse if the other private NRC teams jump ship.

It potentially leaves the ARU and the three oldest unions. NSW, QLD, ACT with very little and whatever it is its time limited.

That would signal a massive power shift.

 

[dru]

Although I don't support the ARU, I simply can't lay blind trust in a character like Twiggy to be the saviour of the game nationally...

And yet by polemic you offer your claimed "non-support" of the ARU amounts to blind faith in Clyne?

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Not in 2018. In time who knows? I'm liking Twiggy's talk, a lot. Proof of the pudding is not now, obviously, but I wish him all the luck that I simply can NOT offer to Clyne.

Well with any new comp start small and grow it. I think expectations would need to be tempered and wait to see details.


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[wamberal]

The game has no particular moral dimension, chaps. It is a game, professional now.


We used to turn a blind eye to apartheid. Lots of worse things have happened than these latest skirmishes, and yet the game has survived.

 

[Slim 293]

And yet by polemic you offer your claimed "non-support" of the ARU amounts to blind faith in Clyne?

No, I don't believe it does.

 

[mst]

All of these NRC level teams could hypothetically jump ship and join this competition.... but what players would they field?

I don't think Twiggy's pipe dream could rival Super Rugby, let alone the NRC, as the options of teams/players able to participate would be very narrow and not of a very high quality.

We know about Aussie rugby players and contracts. Jumping ship is pretty easily done and if it offers security and opportunity players will jump ship.

So right off the bat I know Alcock, Ah-Wong, Toua, Magnay, potentially Smiler, are just a few that need a deal and team to return to. Certainly not "B" class players.

 

[Braveheart81]

I think Twiggy's competition would have to be sanctioned by World Rugby to get off the ground. That will be critical for it.

If he does go down the IPL style route and tries to have a fairly short competition with big dollars on offer it will be quite interesting. You effectively need to pay enough money that players around the world want to join so national unions effectively have to sanction it and release players.

If you want to run it with lower level teams you would need a huge buy-in both personally from Forrest and other owners to finance it over a number of years.

 

[Highlander35]

I'm not saying it would happen.

But if Twiggy's Comp could be structured in such a way that the Force (or Spirit) potentially the Drua, and any other Australian teams could play in both this league and the NRC it would set Australian Rugby up for a strong post 2020 period.

Who knows though. I certainly have no idea.

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