Where to for Super Rugby?

[TOCC]

This has been discussed and explained. They will say nothing because they have a conflict of interest and will benefit from the axing. Do not expect altruism from anybody involved in Professional Rugby management in this country.

ARU had already signed the new contracts with SANZAAR when they took the option to the table at the EGM.. ARU signed away the rights to 5 teams before they ever conferred with the members unions, is be interested to see the hole the ARU had dug themselves into when they presented it to the other unions.

 

[PaarlBok]

Er, what?

No, no they have not.

Also, didn't SA cut the last two teams introduced?

I think you've got it the wrong way around.

Then you have nothing to moan about. You were suppose to lose two teams on merit.

 

[Highlander35]

Then you have nothing to moan about. You were suppose to lose two teams on merit.

 

[BLR]

I think what he means is we are rubbish and the Saffa's are better so we should be cutting two teams. But the SARU are good blokes so took the fall and 'cut' two of their own.

 

[Killer]

Then you have nothing to moan about. You were suppose to lose two teams on merit.

SARU drove the whole 18 team expansion, NZ and AUS were happy with the 15 team comp.
They also drove the 2 conferences in SA to guarantee 2 SA teams in the finals.
The reason we are in this mess is because of SA politics, and it looks as though the only country to lose a team because of it is Aus.
The largest responsibility for arranging this mess lays with SA.
The second is with NZ and Aus allowing it to happen even when all the advice was that it would not work well.
Aus being weak willed allowed themselves to be shafted at every step and are still doing it.
We don't have to even go with it now, but Clyne is too stubborn to change direction for the good of Aus rugby, players and finance.

 

[PaarlBok]

Boet honestly you can just check our lowest team, the Kings results.
Kings vs Australia teams
Force 46 Kings 41
Reds 47 Kings 34
Waratahs 24 Kings 26
Kings 44 Rebels 3
Kings 10 Brumbies 19

 

[PaarlBok]

SARU drove the whole 18 team expansion, NZ and AUS were happy with the 15 team comp.
They also drove the 2 conferences in SA to guarantee 2 SA teams in the finals.
The reason we are in this mess is because of SA politics, and it looks as though the only country to lose a team because of it is Aus.
The largest responsibility for arranging this mess lays with SA.
The second is with NZ and Aus allowing it to happen even when all the advice was that it would not work well.
Aus being weak willed allowed themselves to be shafted at every step and are still doing it.
We don't have to even go with it now, but Clyne is too stubborn to change direction for the good of Aus rugby, players and finance.

You mean Sanzar, your ONeil drive this shite.

 

[Slim 293]

You mean Sanzar, your ONeil drive this shite.

The guy who left in 2012?

Have you been on the Shiggins sauce tonight?

 

[moa999]

Do we know what agreement the ARU has with SANZAAR and what penalties they ARU may be up for if they fail to cut a team??

 

[PaarlBok]

The guy who left in 2012?

Have you been on the Shiggins sauce tonight?

Sorry Greg Peters
http://en.espn.co.uk/super-rugby-2013/rugby/story/193559.html

ONeil strated that plot way back before it was announced

 

[Derpus]

Do we know what agreement the ARU has with SANZAAR and what penalties they ARU may be up for if they fail to cut a team??

Narp

 

[cyclopath]

Sorry Greg Peters
http://en.espn.co.uk/super-rugby-2013/rugby/story/193559.html

ONeil strated that plot way back before it was announced

That notable Aussie, I mean Kiwi!

 

[Killer]

Do we know what agreement the ARU has with SANZAAR and what penalties they ARU may be up for if they fail to cut a team??

I doubt there is anything at all, I think it is just that Clyne probably guaranteed it, too stubborn to back out. If there was I'm sure we would have been shown it by now or at least told of its existence.
I also imagine, maybe Derpus can help us here, that they can not do it retrospectively because Aus could veto any new penalty.

 

[Killer]

Sorry Greg Peters
http://en.espn.co.uk/super-rugby-2013/rugby/story/193559.html

ONeil strated that plot way back before it was announced

have you read that article?

"We really understand the desire for that from South Africa," Peters said. "The Kings have 32% of the playing population, and 72% of that is coloured. We understand the need for six teams in South Africa."

 

[PaarlBok]

have you read that article?

"We really understand the desire for that from South Africa," Peters said. "The Kings have 32% of the playing population, and 72% of that is coloured. We understand the need for six teams in South Africa."

I have read that and hate the increase of teams in SupeRugby during that time. Some of the Aussie posters on this thread actually love the idea but now are moaning.

Edit: See now your are a newbie on the board.

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/community/threads/s18-on-its-way.13275/page-30#post-814217

 

[BLR]

I have read that and hate the increase of teams in SupeRugby during that time. Some of the Aussie posters on this thread actually love the idea but now are moaning.

Edit: See now your are a newbie on the board.

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/community/threads/s18-on-its-way.13275/page-30#post-814217

Putting this kind of comment out there smacks of 'I told you so mentality' and pretty juvenile. We get it, you're super smart and we're all dummies.

As for the newbie comment in regards to Killer, us Force fans have our own very active forum. Most of us, including myself, would lurk here and there but mostly stick to ourselves on our own forum.

 

[Derpus]

Fuck us for having optimism eh?

 

[Slim 293]

I have read that and hate the increase of teams in SupeRugby during that time. Some of the Aussie posters on this thread actually love the idea but now are moaning.

Edit: See now your are a newbie on the board.

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/community/threads/s18-on-its-way.13275/page-30#post-814217

The expansion to 18 teams seemed like a very positive thing, especially after the success of Argentina and Japan in RWC 2015...........

But the format that has been arranged is bollocks (SA teams not playing any NZ teams, Japan in the SA conference, 2 SA conferences etc), and interest in the competition has dramatically fallen off..........

Now is the time for a proper shake up of the format - reducing a few teams isn't going to do much.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Do we know what agreement the ARU has with SANZAAR and what penalties they ARU may be up for if they fail to cut a team??

There's likely no penalties.

But the invitation for next year will be for 4 Australian teams in a 15 team comp with an agreed split of broadcast money.

To change that will require unanimous agreement from all 4 SANZAAR nations. Would they do it, what concessions they will require from the ARU and what can the ARU do if they don't? Who knows?

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[Strewthcobber]

As an example, if the sunwolves make way for the force, who do you reckon will have to cop most of the loss of Japanese broadcasting fees?

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