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Where to for Super Rugby?

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Dismal Pillock

Michael Lynagh (62)
Local Perth Man Bound For Sydney Being Redirected Towards Outback.

--SMH—

Local Perth man Mr S.H.Iggins, who announced he was just heading towards ARU HQ in Sydney for a “friendly chat” in regards to the Western Force rugby team being axed from Super Rugby is currently being ferried towards the Australian outback by the Australian military “for his own safety”.

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“Just a brief word over some tea and scones.”
--Mr S.H.Iggins
 

Rugbynutter39

Michael Lynagh (62)
I am saddened by the cutting of the Western Force and the impact this will have on rugby generally in this country and in particular in growth area like WA. I am pretty calm and chilled about it all though as I think I had come to the realisation of the utter mismanagement of the ARU the professional game is going to the crapper and with their limited capabilities / strategic foresight and immense financial strain professional game under I could see them only taking this option (more because of what the ARU as organisation represents in terms of its limited capabilities and/or ability to execute proper strategic management that this would be the only option it would and could take).



I really had some weeks ago switched off the professional game due to inpet way seen ARU gone about this, and will still watch Wallabies and oz team Super Rugby team matches on TV (but not with great fervour as have in past seasons). But I am doubtful like seasons past go to live Tahs and Wallaby games as the whole sorry business lost me a while ago (and hence first time in 10 seasons not gone to a Tahs game). I will however watch more Shute shield and keep up my interest in NRC games.



I just don't see the professional game having any future in this country while we have such an inept organisation in place called the ARU running our game. So cutting my losses.



If the ARU are removed and replaced by another body with fresh faces and rebranded I 'may' be more interested in going back to the level of support I use to provide our professional teams but just completely disinterested at this point.



Well done ARU as there are so many rusted on fans like me you have turned away from the professional game. If ever a justification for a complete clean out of an organisation and to start again, the ARU is the classic candidate.



Unlike South Africa which has come up with a Plan B that actually makes the professional game stronger in South Africa there will be no such plan for the ARU as they are completely incompetent and unfit to run any major sport, let alone our own diminishing game that have helped to make so minor and insignificant.



RIP Rugby and well done to the ARU for putting the final nail into our ability to be a great professional rugby nation.



Ps sorry for long post - that was for my own personal therapy to recover from my interest in rugby being completely fucked over by the ARU.
 

Rugbynutter39

Michael Lynagh (62)
Announced at 4pm on a Friday afternoon.



4pm Friday 11th August - Mark this the day the ARU made mistake 101 to finally complete its fuck up of Rugby in this Australia to ensure it can only continue to diminish our ability to long term to be a great professional rugby playing nation. I don't think there could be a sporting organisation in this country held in such disdain like the ARU in Australia. I suppose that is something we should mark as something the ARU has at least achieved.
 

Gnostic

Mark Ella (57)
I am saddened by the cutting of the Western Force and the impact this will have on rugby generally in this country and in particular in growth area like WA. I am pretty calm and chilled about it all though as I think I had come to the realisation of the utter mismanagement of the ARU the professional game is going to the crapper and with their limited capabilities / strategic foresight and immense financial strain professional game under I could see them only taking this option (more because of what the ARU as organisation represents in terms of its limited capabilities and/or ability to execute proper strategic management that this would be the only option it would and could take).



I really had some weeks ago switched off the professional game due to inpet way seen ARU gone about this, and will still watch Wallabies and oz team Super Rugby team matches on TV (but not with great fervour as have in past seasons). But I am doubtful like seasons past go to live Tahs and Wallaby games as the whole sorry business lost me a while ago (and hence first time in 10 seasons not gone to a Tahs game). I will however watch more Shute shield and keep up my interest in NRC games.



I just don't see the professional game having any future in this country while we have such an inept organisation in place called the ARU running our game. So cutting my losses.



If the ARU are removed and replaced by another body with fresh faces and rebranded I 'may' be more interested in going back to the level of support I use to provide our professional teams but just completely disinterested at this point.



Well done ARU as there are so many rusted on fans like me you have turned away from the professional game. If ever a justification for a complete clean out of an organisation and to start again, the ARU is the classic candidate.



Unlike South Africa which has come up with a Plan B that actually makes the professional game stronger in South Africa there will be no such plan for the ARU as they are completely incompetent and unfit to run any major sport, let alone our own diminishing game that have helped to make so minor and insignificant.



RIP Rugby and well done to the ARU for putting the final nail into our ability to be a great professional rugby nation.


Fully understand Nutter, and like the passion.

I watched the NZ sides this year in SUper more than I did the Australian sides because they played some good rugby. No Australian side played anything more than a 50 minute game this year, and that wasn't a complete rugby performance with so many glaring holes in skills.

I have gone back to Club Rugby for my weekly fix of decent rugby and it has been good. Super Rugby regardless of how many teams are involved is rubbish in Australia, the teams have under performed badly, all of them, some like the Tahs with less excuse than others, but nobody has any excuses for the prolonged rubbish they have served up, and no one season performances after which they believe their own hype are just not good enough to sustain the levels of expenditure the players, administrators and hangers on expect.

I do not gloat at all, but this situation has been coming for years, it is just the Force who have seen the axe fall first. The ARU would try to sell you the proverbial pig in a poke and tell you now that Rugby will be sustainable in Australia, but they have not addressed the core issues ever, or even acknowledged the existence. Will cutting the Force improve the sustainability of the Tahs, Reds, Brumbies or especially the Rebels? Of course not, but lets kick the can down the road a bit further and milk those last drops from the cow as she bleats her last.

We still have four unsustainable sides in a competition that has a serious disconnect with the fan base.
 

Dismal Pillock

Michael Lynagh (62)
Local Man Updates “Xmas Card List.”

--Perth Times--

Local man Mr S.H.Iggins has reacted to the news of ARU CEO BILL Pulver’s resignation, just minutes after the CEO terminated the Western Force rugby team, by “just revising my Xmas card list over here, nothing to see really.”

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“Nope, nothing to see at all.”
 

Gnostic

Mark Ella (57)
And they cut the team that was seemingly the most sustainable of the lot!



I suppose it couldn't have gone any other way as far as the ARU are concerned.


Given the financial issues besetting Rugby throughout the country do you honestly think that finances were the real deciding factor regardless of what was presented in court. My experience is very different and the most plausible lies are the ones that get told.

Decisions in organisations dominated by "old boys networks" are far too often made with excess concern to "externalities" and relationships within the network are a big part of that and leave people open to making decisions based not on the true facts. Not even necessarily from bad motives but through processes like "cognitive capture" (not in the psychological definition of the term but as discussed by economists like Stiglitz and Krugman where the involvement of the individual in the organistaion comes to alter their thinking and remove their independence of thought so the individual becomes a "company person" spouting the official policy.
 
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BLR

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Given the financial issues besetting Rugby throughout the country do you honestly think that finances were the real deciding factor regardless of what was presented in court. My experience is very different and the most plausible lies are the ones that get told.

Of course, that's one of the reasons why I hope this 'spreadsheet' gets opened to the public one day so we can expose these lies.
 

dru

David Wilson (68)
I'm going to remind everyone at this point, that the ARU claimed proof that we can't support 5 teams did NOT show they can support 4 teams. It showed they can support 3.

Shrinking ourselves to greatness. Way to go ARU.

Like others, I see myself looking to club rugby a lot more as we go forward.
 
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BLR

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I'm going to remind everyone at this point, that the ARU claimed proof that we can't support 5 teams did NOT show they can support 4 teams. It showed they can support 3.

Shrinking ourselves to greatness. Way to go ARU.

Like others, I see myself looking to club rugby a lot more as we go forward.

If I were a Rebels fan I would be expecting to be in the same position this time next year TBH. Harsh but bloody true.
 

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Dick Tooth (41)
I get the feeling all our eggs are in the Super Rugby basket. Yet Super Rugby has been damaged badly by this I fear no plans are afoot between now and the next media deal to develop an alternative should it be needed.

New CEO well he can't do any worse than the current one.
 

Highlander35

Steve Williams (59)
As I said Earlier in the thread: we've got at best 3 seasons before we're going to be in more or less the exact same situation with the expired Super Deal.

The only potential advantage we have over this one is that the conference format kind of makes sense.
 

Rugbynutter39

Michael Lynagh (62)
I get the feeling all our eggs are in the Super Rugby basket. Yet Super Rugby has been damaged badly by this I fear no plans are afoot between now and the next media deal to develop an alternative should it be needed.

New CEO well he can't do any worse than the current one.
That would be true if they recruited outside of the car park


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BLR

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As I said Earlier in the thread: we've got at best 3 seasons before we're going to be in more or less the exact same situation with the expired Super Deal.

The only potential advantage we have over this one is that the conference format kind of makes sense.

Any 'guarantee' has been proven by this debacle to be bs. If the VRU don't come up with funding to stem the bleeding and soon they will be forced to come to the ARU cap in hand, so the ARU can simply say nope and there we go. Clyne has his 3 teams.
 
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