Where to for Super Rugby?

[WorkingClassRugger]

We've got one. It's called the NRC. How are the ratings for it going?

They grew by 23% per game last season. So while not stellar at least they are headed in the right direction.

 

[I like to watch]

We've got one. It's called the NRC. How are the ratings for it going?

Yeah, like that's comparing apples with apples.....

 

[RedsHappy]

Do the ARU even have "several million" to be sued for? Imagine bankrupting the national body.

Only in 'our ARU' could we have a situation where a parent is to be potentially bankrupted by its most newly-born child (and where the cost of the legal proceedings from the child are likely indirectly funded by the parent's cash).

Could the perversity and utter stupidity of that scenario be discovered anywhere else on this planet?

Though, now I think of it, perhaps Chairperson Clyne is already calling in Gina Rinehart for advice.

 

[wamberal]

Yeah, like that's comparing apples with apples...

Mmmm. It's the only apple we've got. If your point is that it is not good enough, what would make it good enough?

More made-up teams? A longer season?

BTW I was stoked when the ARC started. I was living at Wambie, there was a lot of support from the local rugby community. But nobody came to the games, in real terms.


Very hard to build traditional rivalries in a short period of time. The A-League has done it, but they started from a much more substantial base of state competitions.

 

[RedsHappy]

So, not quite. but almost. The lead isn't backed up. The facts about the Force and WA govt are stale


Smith: "The Melbourne Rebels owners are to sue the Australian Rugby Union for a multimillion-dollar amount as the Victorian and West Australian Governments battle to retain a Super Rugby team in their state.

Rebels owner Andrew Cox was asked by The Australian today to confirm that he intends to take legal action against the ARU but reaffirmed only that he is reserving all his rights.

It is understood that the ARU has counteracted by offering to buy back the Melbourne franchise, presumably to close it down, unless it wants to reactivate the proposal to move the Canberra-based Brumbies to the Victorian capital.

The ARU is embroiled in controversy as it attempts to reduce the number of Super Rugby teams from five to four. The Western Force have long been regarded as favourites for the axe but that has changed dramatically.

Further complicating the issue is that the West Australian Government is prepared to compensate the ARU for the $5 million the Victorian Government had pledged to the ARU to stage a Bledisloe Cup Test in Melbourne. Additionally, it is understood the WA Government is prepared to fund the Force for $2 million a year, which would surely resolve any questions about its financial sustainability.

But it is understood that the Victorian Government now is considering matching the WA offer to provide support for the Rebels. Certainly the Victorian Government is adamant that it wants to retain a Super Rugby presence in Melbourne. If the Rebels were to get that level of support, their financial crisis also would be over."

1. When we cannot even afford proper coaching systems and resources to fund our grassroots, can you imagine anything more strategically insane than the ARU using its threadbare funds in $s millions to 'buy back' the Rebels, a franchise already a major failure on objective grounds and still bleeding millions in losses every year and with no end in sight?​

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2. Almost as bad: two franchises survive, not on their self-supporting playing and fan-attracting merits but rather on the basis of trenchant legal threats and governments' new funding?​

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I honestly thought I had heard it all in this saga.......but such was not to be.​

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The theatre of the (massively) absurd has arrived upon our shores.​

 

[I like to watch]

Mmmm. It's the only apple we've got. If your point is that it is not good enough, what would make it good enough?

More made-up teams? A longer season?

BTW I was stoked when the ARC started. I was living at Wambie, there was a lot of support from the local rugby community. But nobody came to the games, in real terms.


Very hard to build traditional rivalries in a short period of time. The A-League has done it, but they started from a much more substantial base of state competitions.

You are comparing a newly established third tier comp that has 7 rounds with a comp that has 27 rounds that almost imploded several times before reaching this current level of fan engagement.

If the Super comp was not in existence, and the NRC as the premier Rugby comp in the nation,had been going as long as the various A league comps, then it might be a valid comparison.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Do the ARU even have "several million" to be sued for? Imagine bankrupting the national body.

Normally bankruptcy is liquidation and selling off assets. Anyone want to buy a clueless aru board and operational team who can destroy a national sport and make it irrelevant within a decade. Ok I will bid $1 for them and send them over to be in charge of the Syrian national football team.

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[BLR]

Ok I will bid $1 for them and send them over to be in charge of the Syrian national football team.
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I have an idea. Hey, New Zealand, we would be sooooo angry if you took the ARU board from us to take over the running of NZ Rugby, they as so good at their jobs.

Bledisloe cup, here we come!

 

[RedsHappy]

EDIT, later: Andrew Cox now quoted in News Corp online as 'not having received a buy-back offer from the ARU'.

 

[KOB1987]

Jamie Pandaram‏ @JamiePandaram 25m25 minutes ago

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Massive development in Aus rugby saga, Herald Sun's @LeoSchlink and @MattyHeraldSun reporting Rebels could be GONE

 

[KOB1987]

Here's the headline to Google for non payers.

The future of the Melbourne Rebels continues to hang in the balance


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e/news-story/a9db208e3d2ae818b30d18b610928b9f

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Only in 'our ARU' could we have a situation where a parent is to be potentially bankrupted by its most newly-born child (and where the cost of the legal proceedings from the child are likely indirectly funded by the parent's cash).

Could the perversity and utter stupidity of that scenario be discovered anywhere else on this planet?

Though, now I think of it, perhaps Chairperson Clyne is already calling in Gina Rinehart for advice.

I would rather Gina Reinhardt be converted to rugby and throw a lazy $100m at it to have some fun owning a team or something.

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[Rugbynutter39]

You are comparing a newly established third tier comp that has 7 rounds with a comp that has 27 rounds that almost imploded several times before reaching this current level of fan engagement.

If the Super comp was not in existence, and the NRC as the premier Rugby comp in the nation,had been going as long as the various A league comps, then it might be a valid comparison.

At least the nrc does not take away aru money that could otherwise be spent on grass roots. Unlike super rugby cash bleeder.

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[Rugbynutter39]

I have an idea. Hey, New Zealand, we would be sooooo angry if you took the ARU board from us to take over the running of NZ Rugby, they as so good at their jobs.

Bledisloe cup, here we come!

I think we would happily pay nz rugby to take our aru as this could be best investment ever. And guaranteed to see us have the bledisloe cup pretty quickly as aru have a pretty good record of making a big impact in short amount time!

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[No4918]

Jamie Pandaram‏ @JamiePandaram 25m25 minutes ago

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Massive development in Aus rugby saga, Herald Sun's @LeoSchlink and @MattyHeraldSun reporting Rebels could be GONE

 

[Inside Shoulder]

So, not quite. but almost. The lead isn't backed up. The facts about the Force and WA govt are stale



The Melbourne Rebels owners are to sue the Australian Rugby Union for a multimillion-dollar amount as the Victorian and West Australian Governments battle to retain a Super Rugby team in their state
Further complicating the issue is that the West Australian Government is prepared to compensate the ARU for the $5 million the Victorian Government had pledged to the ARU to stage a Bledisloe Cup Test in Melbourne

But it is understood that the Victorian Government now is considering matching the WA offer to provide support for the Rebels. Certainly the Victorian Government is adamant that it wants to retain a Super Rugby presence in Melbourne. If the Rebels were to get that level of support, their financial crisis also would be over.

All is forgiven. The ARU Board are freakin' geniuses. there's no crisis this has been one brilliant staged ploy to nationalise the game.
How could we have been so blind?
We're gonna gonski rugby!

 

[The torpedo]

1. When we cannot even afford proper coaching systems and resources to fund our grassroots, can you imagine anything more strategically insane than the ARU using its threadbare funds in $s millions to 'buy back' the Rebels, a franchise already a major failure on objective grounds and still bleeding millions in losses every year and with no end in sight?​

​

2. Almost as bad: two franchises survive, not on their self-supporting playing and fan-attracting merits but rather on the basis of trenchant legal threats and governments' new funding?​

​

I honestly thought I had heard it all in this saga...but such was not to be.​

​

The theatre of the (massively) absurd has arrived upon our shores.​

Soon everyone will be speaking Dogg

 

[James Pettifer]

Here's the headline to Google for non payers.

The future of the Melbourne Rebels continues to hang in the balance


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e/news-story/a9db208e3d2ae818b30d18b610928b9f

In summary, there is a report that something might be happening. This has been denied by the person who would most know about it. We decided to write a click bait article anyway as it should bring us in some revenue.

 

[Slim 293]

In summary, there is a report that something might be happening. This has been denied by the person who would most know about it. We decided to write a click bait article anyway as it should bring us in some revenue.

Lou posted this yesterday...........

Some whispers that the ARU are trying to buy back the Rebels $5-7 m now the selling price range.

 

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We've got one. It's called the NRC. How are the ratings for it going?

No we don't we have a a rushed product in need of much TLC new teams and a different calendar.

Let me compare, for starters comparing the A-League to the NRC is what many would call a long bow to draw.

However at least your thinking about it.

The question is what are we doing about it and not in isolation or what player X and or club Y is doing. What as a community of people are we doing.

At least we are finally holding our national body to account, and they are struggling when the blow touch is being held to their belly.

So lets have a little close look at the NRC and compare it to our closest rival soccer. Soccer decided to set up two things one an FA cup event where all their teams Australia wide are invited to enter. Second to set up there version of the NRC. It is called the National Premier League

It took them almost four years but they invited anyone who wanted to join too join. They set the bar somewhat high and sat back an waited.

The key to entering a team in soccer's NPL is to appoint a director of coaching and set up training academies in line with FFA guidelines. Meaning soccer has 100 national training academies spread Australia wide.

The NPL is run by their state associations eg the NSW associations link http://www.nswpl.com.au

The various association winning in their NPL competitions enter the FFA Cup.

So how successful has the NPL been well they have over 100 teams entered who met the standard.

Teams often broadcast their games via youtube linked to facebook.

Here are some examples, each team is in winter competition and those good enough start to play in the FFA Cup and in August / September and however long they last up against A-League teams.

Some examples of there broadcasts and remember this could be up to 50 yes 50 games a weekend over 26 to 30 weeks.

This is taken off a soccer forum on the NPL. I grabbed a couple of there ratings and have some of there broadcast. This my friend is what we are up against. When you are inclusive and invite everybody to join hint hint hint hint hint [Eastwood as an example] people actually work very hard and they feel included and not left out and there history is not forgotten.

Bentleigh Greens v South Melbourne = 10k views (FB)

Rochedale Rovers v Brisbane Strikers 8,500 views

Some matches

South Hobart v Hobart Zebras

Link: https://youtu.be/qMpVhYLisrg


Sydney Olympic v Sydney United

https://www.facebook.com/nplnsw/videos/1302333709821950/?permPage=1