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Tim Horan (67)
And Australian Rugby has a lot to thank them for tooMelbourne rugby has lot to thank VIC govt for continuing to make these sort of investments.....
And Australian Rugby has a lot to thank them for tooMelbourne rugby has lot to thank VIC govt for continuing to make these sort of investments.....
Melbourne rugby has lot to thank VIC govt for continuing to make these sort of investments.....
Interesting times ahead, a lot of what I call level two codes have moved and are in play across newer platforms. Will be interesting to see how we stack up against the Super Cars to 7 & the A-L to 10.
To hard to compare level 1 to say level 3 as an example as the sheer amount of media and hype will in and of itself create a bigger market.
Super Cars and A-L I think both are currently running. Super Cars me think leads the pack of the level two sports
BTW my sports levels are.
Level 1, AFL, NRL, Cricket, Tennis
Level 2, Super Cars, Super Rugby, A-League, Golf,
Level 3, Basketball, Netball, Horse racing,
Level 4, X sports, surfing, swimming
Level 5, the rest
Have you seen how many people attend the races every weekend when its on? Definitely a Tier 1 'sport' in Australia, in fact Channel 7 has extended their coverage to show every race Saturday in 2022 across Vic, NSW and QLD I believe, rather than just the big carnivals.Level 1, AFL, NRL, Cricket, Tennis
Level 2, Super Cars, Super Rugby, A-League, Golf,
Level 3, Basketball, Netball, Horse racing,
Level 4, X sports, surfing, swimming
Level 5, the rest
Have you seen how many people attend the races every weekend when its on? Definitely a Tier 1 'sport' in Australia, in fact Channel 7 has extended their coverage to show every race Saturday in 2022 across Vic, NSW and QLD I believe, rather than just the big carnivals.
Basketball definitely a Tier 2 sport now as well, Olympics went well for the Boomers, NBA fans are everywhere, even the NBL has been getting packed stadiums.
I find this all a bit academic - as not sure our competition horse racing.Have you seen how many people attend the races every weekend when its on? Definitely a Tier 1 'sport' in Australia, in fact Channel 7 has extended their coverage to show every race Saturday in 2022 across Vic, NSW and QLD I believe, rather than just the big carnivals.
Basketball definitely a Tier 2 sport now as well, Olympics went well for the Boomers, NBA fans are everywhere, even the NBL has been getting packed stadiums.
It’s probably more a complementary product to be honest, if there is such a thing. Lots of people used to go from Randwick to the SFS for the Tahs, and I’ve seen a similar correlation in Brisbane. Racing is definitely tier 1 though, the gambling dollar would verify that.I find this all a bit academic - as not sure our competition horse racing.
Just ask “the kings”Levels based on what?
And horse racing isn’t a sport.
The inference would be crowds and viewership.Levels based on what?
And horse racing isn’t a sport.
The comparison with motor racing is not accurate. Best to compare horse racing with roulette. If gambling wasn’t involved, would it exist? Clearly no. There’s no junior carnivals out there (I don’t think) or development pathways - that don’t only exist for people to gamble on.The inference would be crowds and viewership.
and yeah it is. The horses and riders are all athletes. You don’t have to like it but if motor racing qualifies then horse racing certainly does.
However, for this exercise I’d say confining it to team sports is a better metric.
The junior pathways come more through the equestrian area, eg pony club, campdrafting etc, there are apprenticeships, and there still exists an amateur competition. It would exist without gambling but the prize money would be a lot lower, although sponsor ship would likely become the main revenue stream. Hugh Bowman for example was able to choose a jockey apprenticeship as his school sport when he was at Scots.The comparison with motor racing is not accurate. Best to compare horse racing with roulette. If gambling wasn’t involved, would it exist? Clearly no. There’s no junior carnivals out there (I don’t think) or development pathways - that don’t only exist for people to gamble on.
That's a stretch I think KOB, think you will find things like Pony Clubs etc would be seen more as a lead into show jumping etc, would doubt whether it leads to either kids becoming jockeys or horse tr ainers very often at all. Horse racing as such would I doubt exist except in odd picnics in country if not for betting. It is only reason for it as we know it.The junior pathways come more through the equestrian area, eg pony club, campdrafting etc, there are apprenticeships, and there still exists an amateur competition. It would exist without gambling but the prize money would be a lot lower, although sponsor ship would likely become the main revenue stream. Hugh Bowman for example was able to choose a jockey apprenticeship as his school sport when he was at Scots.
The equestrian comparison is not really any different to saying that go-carting is the junior equivalent to Formula 1.
People actually watch races for a month every year. All other times it’s the event and not the sport that attracts peopleHave you seen how many people attend the races every weekend when its on? Definitely a Tier 1 'sport' in Australia, in fact Channel 7 has extended their coverage to show every race Saturday in 2022 across Vic, NSW and QLD I believe, rather than just the big carnivals.
Basketball definitely a Tier 2 sport now as well, Olympics went well for the Boomers, NBA fans are everywhere, even the NBL has been getting packed stadiums.
Possibly, horse people are horse people for life. Campdrafting, barrel racing, etc are more analogous to a junior competition, but it's not like their going to put a bunch of 12 year olds on a 550kg animal at let them loose around a racetrack at 60 km/h.That's a stretch I think KOB, think you will find things like Pony Clubs etc would be seen more as a lead into show jumping etc, would doubt whether it leads to either kids becoming jockeys or horse tr ainers very often at all. Horse racing as such would I doubt exist except in odd picnics in country if not for betting. It is only reason for it as we know it.
Yep I know what you mean, I got nephew who is jockey, family pretty good friends with a few trainers and former jockeys, none of them were involved with Pony Clubs etc. But that is here in (well nephew bt marriage is Aussie) NZ, and in general maybe different in Aus.Possibly, horse people are horse people for life. Campdrafting, barrel racing, etc are more analogous to a junior competition, but it's not like their going to put a bunch of 12 year olds on a 550kg animal at let them loose around a racetrack at 60 km/h.
Agree, it is all about the horse.Levels based on what?
And horse racing isn’t a sport.