Where is JON hiding?

[wamberal]

I have worked in a large sporting organisation (not rugby, and not in Australia). At first I was phlegmatic about JON having his gig at Echo, thinking that there might conceivably be some synergies, but I was wrong. Alarm bells should have been ringing, long ago.

Now I am deeply concerned. As the Chairman of a public company which appears to be enmeshed in a major corporate drama, JON needs to take unpaid leave from his role at the ARU, and an acting CEO must be installed.

The ARU should be his prime responsibility, I cannot for the life of me see him giving his job at the ARU any sort of attention for the forseeable future. The rugby brand is fragile in Australia now, notwithstanding what some of the optimists around here think. The game desperately needs real, creative, and bold leadership.

Quade Cooper is now the public face of the game in this country. Heaven help us.

 

[waratahjesus]

Wamberal - name one time when JoNs participation on the Echo board has impacted on his work at the ARU?

 

[Sir Arthur Higgins]

why should his position of chairman of the board prevent him from having another job? do you have any idea how many chairmen and nonexecutive directors have other jobs? here's an answer - almost all of them - especially when it's for a company of ECHO's size.
i have no problem whatsoever with his position. it doesnt not seem in any way to impact on his ability to perform his duties with the ARU and in no way is there any conflict of interest.

this is a ridiculous complaint against JON.

 

[TOCC]

Why is this a thread, I'm sure there are already threads on this topic...

 

[Braveheart81]

Why is this a thread, I'm sure there are already threads on this topic.

Nah mate. There's never been a thread about John O'Neill on this forum.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Nah mate. There's never been a thread about John O'Neill on this forum.

Yeah - the "Hiding" is totally new

 

[Scotty]

why should his position of chairman of the board prevent him from having another job? do you have any idea how many chairmen and nonexecutive directors have other jobs? here's an answer - almost all of them - especially when it's for a company of ECHO's size.
i have no problem whatsoever with his position. it doesnt not seem in any way to impact on his ability to perform his duties with the ARU and in no way is there any conflict of interest.

this is a ridiculous complaint against JON.

I wouldn't think you could find many that are both CEO's and chairmen.

 

[wamberal]

Some stunning ignorance displayed

why should his position of chairman of the board prevent him from having another job? do you have any idea how many chairmen and nonexecutive directors have other jobs? here's an answer - almost all of them - especially when it's for a company of ECHO's size.
i have no problem whatsoever with his position. it doesnt not seem in any way to impact on his ability to perform his duties with the ARU and in no way is there any conflict of interest.

this is a ridiculous complaint against JON.

Where to start? For starters, how do you know what impact his role at Echo is having on his role as CEO of the ARU? I assume you live in Melbourne, and have no idea what is happening at Echo. Today, for example, the SMH financial pages had three major stories about the turmoil at Star Casino, with the CEO getting the sack, and other major problems.


JON is one of only two remaining directors, and if you know anything about company law (which I doubt) you should be aware that he is in a very difficult and time-consuming situation. The bloody organisation does not have a CEO, or at best it has one who is spending all his time working out what he is going to do next. And, by the way, he is leaving because he created some major problems. So JON is carrying the can, in an industry when huge amounts of money can be won, or more likely, lost overnight.

How many chairmen of public companies can you name who are also the CEO of another organisation?

 

[waratahjesus]

I think you are right wamberal.

After today it was clear that JON was hiding, at his desk, handling his job.

As someone who knows little about company law, I would think actively doing his duties for organizations to which he is contracted would make him a good employee, but then again. I know nothing of company law.

 

[ACT Crusader]

Some stunning ignorance displayed




Where to start? For starters, how do you know what impact his role at Echo is having on his role as CEO of the ARU? I assume you live in Melbourne, and have no idea what is happening at Echo. Today, for example, the SMH financial pages had three major stories about the turmoil at Star Casino, with the CEO getting the sack, and other major problems.


JON is one of only two remaining directors, and if you know anything about company law (which I doubt) you should be aware that he is in a very difficult and time-consuming situation. The bloody organisation does not have a CEO, or at best it has one who is spending all his time working out what he is going to do next. And, by the way, he is leaving because he created some major problems. So JON is carrying the can, in an industry when huge amounts of money can be won, or more likely, lost overnight.

How many chairmen of public companies can you name who are also the CEO of another organisation?

You make it sound like he is last man standing at Echo and doing all the heavy lifting alone. That's not the case. There are other NED's, the CFO still has his job. Only Paton has given his resignation (just a couple of days ago) and another will leave next year.

Yes the casino industry has a stench it that's been the case in NSW for some time, so it's hardly surprising these movements and media coverage, but just as you're assuming JON has shirked his ARU role because of this, it could also be assumed that he hasn't.

 

[I like to watch]

It's not a matter of shirking, it's more a matter of not having the time.
It's the squeaky wheel that get's oiled, Chair of any public company is labour intensive at any time. This particular company is in some degree of turmoil,where no doubt JON is spending many more hours than he would have anticipated.
Additionally, he clearly does not have the same level of corporate structure in the ARU, as I understand his wage is 40% of the payroll.

 

[TOCC]

Wamberal can't help but spew negativity about the ARU and broader rugby community, even when people try to point out indicators which contradict some of what he is insinuating...

Some people just aren't work holding conversations with especially when they have a condescending attitude.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

JON statement here off the ARU Web site:

Statement regarding Quade Cooper's TV interview

 

[Sir Arthur Higgins]

Some stunning ignorance displayed




Where to start indeed? Your assumption that I am from Melbourne and this supposed relevance is ridiculous. Your condescending comments with regards to your v my knowledge of corporate law is unattractive at best.
Do you know the role of a NED/ind director??
I know of several IDs who have full time jobs running major funds management firms in Australia (Sydney included! most IDs would have other roles. That's why you bring them in.
Brush up on the roles of an NED/ID for f.cks sake before you spew off.
Waratah Jesus. Help me out here.

 

[Sir Arthur Higgins]

I wouldn't think you could find many that are both CEO's and chairmen.

CEOs of a private company and chair of board/Ned of a public - you could find more than a few.

 

[I like to watch]

My belief is that chair is a much more time consuming role than a NED, and is supported by the fact that Chairs are invariably paid a multiple of what NED's receive.
There are other boards that he sits on as well IIRC.

 

[Gagger]

Let me get this right - with everything going on in Australian rugby, there are guys here who think the CEO of the ARU is a part-time position?

 

[fatprop]

Let me get this right - with everything going on in Australian rugby, there are guys here who think the CEO of the ARU is a part-time position?

There is a pretty accurate saying "If you want something done, ask a busy person to do it."

My experience with the CEOs of large organisations is that they all do a lot of "extras" whether paid or voluntary

like say Gail Kelly CEO of Westpac for example

Gail is a non-executive director of the Business Council of Australia, the Australian Bankers’ Association and the Financial Markets Foundation for Children. She sits on the Global Board of Advisers to the US Council on Foreign Relations, and is a member of the Sydney Cricket & Sports Ground Trust. Gail is also Care Australia’s Ambassador for Women’s Empowerment.

 

[Gagger]

He's the CHAIRMAN of a public company in the middle of a boardroom shiftight - which has included boning their CEO.

You equate that with seats on a few advisories?

 

[Bruce Ross]

Let's try an experiment. Why don't some of you who are still in the workforce go to your current boss and tell them you've been offered the chairmanship of a public company run by one of the Packers, where you'll be expected to play a central role in helping him to take over the casino industry in Sydney? Reassure him that you'll be able to fit this in while still carrying out your day job. Then if you could all get back to us we could tally up those who received permission against those who were denied it.
.