What The Hell Was That For?

[elementfreak]

One I dont understand is the 10m law in regards to kicking.

Like you have said you need to retire until put onside, however if you just stand there and don't retire and the ball lands within 10m of you then you are deemed to be offside as you have not made the effort to be onside.

 

[elementfreak]

Can someone explain what happened in the reds vs canes game where shipperley was refused the mark. Was this because it was juggled or did the ref just get it wrong.

Nope, right call. Marks will only really be given if the catch is 'clean'.

 

[elementfreak]

I thought you had to move 10 metres away in any direction from the player receiving the ball.

It used to be a 10m "circle" but now it is the same as a penalty, got to be 10m away on your defensive side.

 

[Jnor]

Nope, right call. Marks will only really be given if the catch is 'clean'.

That may be the law, but it seems quite pedantic to me. Also I can't recall any times it's been enforced either.

 

[vidiot]

That may be the law, but it seems quite pedantic to me. Also I can't recall any times it's been enforced either.

Still, in the grand scheme of things, and in the context of a game chock full of of ambiguous yet important laws that are hard to adjudicate, it's of no great significance. Unless like shipperley you do something ridiculous. He hopefully has learnt a useful lesson. Apart from that he wasn't out of place, though gear had a strong game opposite.

 

[brokendown]

That may be the law, but it seems quite pedantic to me. Also I can't recall any times it's been enforced either.

in my day,not only did you have to catch the ball cleanly,but call "mark" whilst digging your heel into the ground at the same time.
If the ref didn't blow his whistle you were dead meat!

 

[Refabit]

Nope, right call. Marks will only really be given if the catch is 'clean'.

The way I've always seen "clean" interpreted is "not touched by an opponent".

 

[Sully]

The way I've always seen "clean" interpreted is "not touched by an opponent".

When I read it I wasn't certain which way it meant.

 

[brokendown]

i read it as clean means not juggled

 

[Sully]

I was watching Ali Williams move up the centre of the lineout before the ball was thrown is this allowed?

All I can find is this in law 19
(m) Opposing players forming a lineout must keep a clear space between their inside shoulders.
This space is determined when players are in an upright stance.
Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line
(n) Metre gap. Each line of players must be half a metre

 

[Lance Free]

The sanction for offside in general play is an election by the non-offending team: either a penalty where the offence occurred (where the player was offside) or a scrum where the offending team last played the ball (where he kicked it from).

The 10 metre circle is a line across the field now.

 

[qwerty51]

Another thing, I'm pretty sure I saw a Force player tackle a Crusaders player whilst on his knees on the weekend. This is a penalty is it not?

 

[Sully]

I thought it was. I'll have a look unless someone else can help me out.

 

[Sully]

Law 14 D

(d) A player on the ground must not tackle or attempt to tackle an opponent.
Sanction: Penalty kick

 

[qwerty51]

I'll try to see if I can find the incident on my IQ but I'm sure he was on the ground on his knees and then jumped into the tackle, might be why the ref let it go but should be still be a penalty.

 

[Sully]

Anyone?

I was watching Ali Williams move up the centre of the lineout before the ball was thrown is this allowed?

 

[Lance Free]

Anyone? I was watching Ali Williams move up the centre of the lineout before the ball was thrown is this allowed?

Yep. You are allowed to change places before the ball is thrown in. The lineout hasn't actually begun until the ball leaves the hands of the thrower.

 

[Sully]

I had never seen someone move up the middle of the lineout before.

 

[Nusadan]

Sully, regarding being made onside after a kick when an opponent passes as per start of this thread, what other penalty situation is still continuing even when the opponent passes, no matter how many passes, it's only if the opponent runs 5 metres with the ball for the offender to be made onside?

Am racking my brains here, having remembered in my reading of the laws something about it...

 

[DPK]

Nope, right call. Marks will only really be given if the catch is 'clean'.

That's a bit worrying. Thanks guys, that'll be in the back of my head next time I'm trying to defuse a kick in my 22...