Hard to argue with much of that. A bit hard on Palu - he made a lot of ground with the ball, some nice offloads too. He did pick it up like that a couple of times, I agree though.
What is wrong with the Tahs
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with 70% of the rugby talent coming through NSW I'm sure they have talent out there that they aren't identifying
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Don't agree with Carter being scapegoated. He's not a flash player but he's not the worst performing player in the Tahs. Also very few champion teams have flash players from 1-15. The Tom Carters of this world are needed to do the unseen and unfashionable work to allow the flash players to get on with what they do best.
I've got a lot less sympathy for Gaffney though but that is based on a combination of his time with the Ireland national team and this year at the Tahs. So I'm judging him on a much longer period than most Tahs fans would.
I've got a lot less sympathy for Gaffney though but that is based on a combination of his time with the Ireland national team and this year at the Tahs. So I'm judging him on a much longer period than most Tahs fans would.
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Ted Fahey (11)
Shirly, Foley has to be demoted after tonight (and last week)!
I don't buy into at all this talk of coaches being scapegoated for poor player performance. Look at how much of a difference the coaches have made at the Reds and Brumbies. Last year a star studded Brumbies were abysmal without a coach. This year under Jake White, a team of juniors, nobodies and other teams rejects (Mowen) are topping the Australian conference. In the space of three years McKensie was able to take the Reds from the bottom of the ladder to the championship with a largely unchanged team. The coach does make a huge difference.
Last year the 'Tah's did well. Despite a horrendous injury list they still managed to make the finals. For most of this year I thought they were just unlucky, a number of close games. But eventually luck stops being an excuse, and it stopped being an excuse when they lost to the Cheetahs last week. Losing by 21 points and a four try bonus to the Hurricanes tonight was the icing. On paper the 'Tah's are a very strong team. They have the best scrum in Australia, they have wrecking balls like Palu and TPN, they have a highly capped backline, promising juniors in Foley and Kingston, and they have an almost full strength team with very few injuries for this time of the competition. Yet week by week they are getting worse. It's the sign of a good coach when a teams starts off slowly but then improves week in and week out. And the sign of a bad coach when each weeks performance is even more dire than the previous week.
I don't think Cheika is necessarily the answer. But Foley has to be demoted back to forwards coach and the 'Tah's need to bring in a top international level coach like the Brumbies and Reds (to NSW's chagrin) have done. I mean, FFS, shower Graham Henry in gold if that's what is needed, just get an international level coach!
I don't buy into at all this talk of coaches being scapegoated for poor player performance. Look at how much of a difference the coaches have made at the Reds and Brumbies. Last year a star studded Brumbies were abysmal without a coach. This year under Jake White, a team of juniors, nobodies and other teams rejects (Mowen) are topping the Australian conference. In the space of three years McKensie was able to take the Reds from the bottom of the ladder to the championship with a largely unchanged team. The coach does make a huge difference.
Last year the 'Tah's did well. Despite a horrendous injury list they still managed to make the finals. For most of this year I thought they were just unlucky, a number of close games. But eventually luck stops being an excuse, and it stopped being an excuse when they lost to the Cheetahs last week. Losing by 21 points and a four try bonus to the Hurricanes tonight was the icing. On paper the 'Tah's are a very strong team. They have the best scrum in Australia, they have wrecking balls like Palu and TPN, they have a highly capped backline, promising juniors in Foley and Kingston, and they have an almost full strength team with very few injuries for this time of the competition. Yet week by week they are getting worse. It's the sign of a good coach when a teams starts off slowly but then improves week in and week out. And the sign of a bad coach when each weeks performance is even more dire than the previous week.
I don't think Cheika is necessarily the answer. But Foley has to be demoted back to forwards coach and the 'Tah's need to bring in a top international level coach like the Brumbies and Reds (to NSW's chagrin) have done. I mean, FFS, shower Graham Henry in gold if that's what is needed, just get an international level coach!
FairWeatherAussie
Ted Fahey (11)
PS. Even though he's a Kiwi, I'm not necessarily suggesting that Henry is into golden showers.
rugbysmartarse
Alan Cameron (40)
These blokes need to go out, and get absolutely fucking wasted with one another. Like the billboard says, "a night in the cross turns a flatmate into a mate"
They play like they've never met
They play like they've never met
p.Tah
John Thornett (49)
I have a feeling we' may be saying the same thing on Tuesday night.
Epi
Dave Cowper (27)
Thousands of dollars I spent supporting the Tahs over the years. I moved to melbourne 6 years ago and switched to the Rebels from the ARC to their inception into super rugby. (I think a new local team is the only excuse for switching allegiances). The NSW Waratahs are the most unprofessional and most embarrassing organisation in the Australian sporting landscape and should be dissolved and replaced.
Their laughable incompetence would be stomach-able if not for their arrogance. This fish is rotten from the head down...
Their laughable incompetence would be stomach-able if not for their arrogance. This fish is rotten from the head down...
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Peter Sullivan (51)
What was the crowd tonight? I dont recall it being broadcast on Fox.
Are the Rebels still above the Tahs crowd for the season?
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Bill McLean (32)
The crowd was 13,372 with plenty of Hurricanes fans making up that number. Take out the SFS members and you would be getting close to the 10,000 mark in terms of paid admissions. It's shaping up to be a financial disaster for the Tahs.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
This would be a really left fied selection but would Allan Jones be someone who could make a difference, I dont think he would take any shit from the players, he would contraol all aspects of the team and would also bring a high profile and ticket sales to the Tahs. He wrote a column on the Roar.com.au a week ago bashing the Tahs so he might be able to be convinced to sign up if challenged to prove he is right with his theories.
Whilst I think it would be a backward step, the Tahs need to do something major soon or they will lose their spot in the NSW sporting landscape. Is Martin Johnson availiable?
Badger
Bill McLean (32)
Yeah, it didn't look like that many. Perhaps some were hiding undercover.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
they might have to move to Homebush to make money, they pay teams to play there with as much money as a 10000 crowd at SFS at a minimum. This is why so many league teams play there.
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Bill McLean (32)
There is already plenty of displeasure from the fans about having two games per season out at Homebush. To move all games out there would be a tough sell to the dwindling number of Tahs supporters. I would say most regular Tahs fans would prefer to remain at the SFS.
FairWeatherAussie
Ted Fahey (11)
I assume you mean Alan Jones. His coaching career is long gone past.
I'm not serious about Henry, I doubt he'd ever coach the enemy. But I'm surprised his name is never mentioned, he's no more left field than White. He is assistanting for Argentina and has admitted he is too addicted to rugby to give up coaching.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
but if the number of tahs fans who attend brings in less revenue than moving then why stay?
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