Western Force 2012
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Shiggins
Simon Poidevin (60)
The force need to stick with Stannard Fuck signing a marquee 10. We need to develop Stannard. He looks very promising. How old is he?
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GaffaCHinO
Peter Sullivan (51)
GaffaCHinO
Peter Sullivan (51)
No they want to still bring in a development player but they don’t want to be locked in 2 years with a player who might be a quick fix now but might not be best for the team next year and miss the opportunity to sign a more well credentialed player who has come of contract at the end the the year.
GaffaCHinO
Peter Sullivan (51)
lol i did notice...we do things differently in the west.
Grandmaster Flash
Johnnie Wallace (23)
Late to the party with this one, but looking at the teamsheet for the Force I wondered to myself what had happened to Tom Hockings? Quick Google showed he has been cut by the Force. What a shame. Guess he didn't kick on from the form her had a couple of seasons ago?
Shiggins
Simon Poidevin (60)
didn't think about the half back situation. had no idea turner was out. that is a shocking situation for us.
Shiggins
Simon Poidevin (60)
its very surprising to me. He is a very good lock but saying that we are not shy of good locks
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tranquility
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Tom Hockings is also a supremely intelligent bloke, I think he studies medicine, so you would think he would be very coach-able. He is over in Japan making pretty good dollars, which is a shame because he is only 26 this season.
mudskipper
Colin Windon (37)
GaffaCHinO
Peter Sullivan (51)
ChargerWA
Mark Loane (55)
I'm a Force supporter and even I can't really buy that. What if Willy Ripia got injured before round 1? Same situation. Force need to take responsibility for their situation, recruit better and not worry about looking for special treatment.
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
I agree with that Charger. Better list management is an area that the club should focus on.
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Moono75
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List management...just look at Pretorius with the Tahs...how did we not have a crack at him.
GaffaCHinO
Peter Sullivan (51)
I might be wrong but if a player gets a season ending injury can you bring someone in on a short term injury contract?? Like we saw with Charles
But the force are being made bring someone in on a 2 year contract??
The issue is very different from a injury to a player and a player who resigned/quit just before the start of a season and stuffed all plans laid prior
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ChargerWA
Mark Loane (55)
Is there a rule regarding how long you have to sign your overseas development player for? If the rule says they must be contracted for 2 years then that would make sense. Like for like replacement for Ripia.
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Waylon
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The Force have to stop importing and start from the ground up.
The main reason John Mitchell was given the inaugural coaching position was because he had the vision of a complete development structure from grass roots through to professional rugby
Rugby WA has cut back it's development
The Metro Union is a bunch of old farts squabbling like women over the last pair of Boxing day red shoes
To paint a picture........WA is booming. There is mass immigration of kiwis for employment, saffers escaping the political situation, Brits escaping the legacy of centuries of empire, and east coasters looking for a better place to live
The rugby ex pat community is a major growth center for Australian rugby. The rugby community in WA is growing exponentially
Rugby WA is incapable of providing the structure to support the vision and hopes of the rugby community. The organisation is sadly lacking in talent, initiative and drive
The West coast junior talent pool is impressive. The kids aged 8-14 are as good as any other junior group anywhere in the world. many of these kids have come from the rugby mad cultures of South Africa and NZ. The kids have ability and raw talent.
Sadly, the structure and opportunity falls away alarmingly for them when they hit their teens
Rugby WA needs to build academies, pump money and elite coaches into the junior systems and hire people more capable at building the organisation from the ground up.......better systems, administration, coaching, development, junior systems
The great opportunity seems to be being p1ssed into the wind
There is too much "we can't afford" this or that......."we can't do this"..........."that won't work in WA"........"we can't"........."there's no funds"
They need a CEO "who can" and asks "how can we" rather than "it can't be done"
WA is the richest state in Australia. Money blows down the street. You can smell the money coming out of the ground.............and Rugby WA is an organisation who can't afford to develop academies, strong junuior and senior club competitions, develop the game in more schools, promote the game in the indigenous communities
It's a circus
Under Mitchell, the organisation built huge momentum at all levels
The wheels have fallen off
This may be reflected in the results of the Force in 2012
The main reason John Mitchell was given the inaugural coaching position was because he had the vision of a complete development structure from grass roots through to professional rugby
Rugby WA has cut back it's development
The Metro Union is a bunch of old farts squabbling like women over the last pair of Boxing day red shoes
To paint a picture........WA is booming. There is mass immigration of kiwis for employment, saffers escaping the political situation, Brits escaping the legacy of centuries of empire, and east coasters looking for a better place to live
The rugby ex pat community is a major growth center for Australian rugby. The rugby community in WA is growing exponentially
Rugby WA is incapable of providing the structure to support the vision and hopes of the rugby community. The organisation is sadly lacking in talent, initiative and drive
The West coast junior talent pool is impressive. The kids aged 8-14 are as good as any other junior group anywhere in the world. many of these kids have come from the rugby mad cultures of South Africa and NZ. The kids have ability and raw talent.
Sadly, the structure and opportunity falls away alarmingly for them when they hit their teens
Rugby WA needs to build academies, pump money and elite coaches into the junior systems and hire people more capable at building the organisation from the ground up.......better systems, administration, coaching, development, junior systems
The great opportunity seems to be being p1ssed into the wind
There is too much "we can't afford" this or that......."we can't do this"..........."that won't work in WA"........"we can't"........."there's no funds"
They need a CEO "who can" and asks "how can we" rather than "it can't be done"
WA is the richest state in Australia. Money blows down the street. You can smell the money coming out of the ground.............and Rugby WA is an organisation who can't afford to develop academies, strong junuior and senior club competitions, develop the game in more schools, promote the game in the indigenous communities
It's a circus
Under Mitchell, the organisation built huge momentum at all levels
The wheels have fallen off
This may be reflected in the results of the Force in 2012
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Moono75
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Moono75
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Waylon I have read your post again and actually I agree with a lot of it. I don't want to have an administration that is happy to settle with second best. Why can't we be the top team in the comp. Why cant we pay the most, recruit the best, have the best coach. If your not in the comp to be the best team what's the fKn point. Look at the Highlanders, not the best resourced team, the flashiest but they are 2 zip and knocked off what has been the best NZ team for the past 10 years. Force (Rugby WA) get in the game.
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