Waratahs vs Cheetahs Super Rugby-R5 2013
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
No. Burgess is a better player atm, Phipps is the better long term player
mark_s
Chilla Wilson (44)
Congrats to the cheetahs, they played clever rugby and were also physical at the breakdown. Sarel was very good for most of the game, he looked like he enjoyed it.
For the tahs, geez some really good patches and phases but too many mistakes leading to easy points. I thought Ryan was excellent, not too many other tahs didnt have some part of the game to regret even though most of the team had good involvements at times. Take Betham, looked to be gold plated in the first half but looked a bit of a dunce in the second, he stopped working off the ball and got caught flat footed a few times plus dropped the bomb etc.
Overall, I thought the difference between the teams was the benches, we lost intensity and momentum as the changes were made the cheetahs didn't.
Where do we go from here? Just keep plugging away I guess, if we can get the errors down then anything is possible but it seems the work in progress label will be with us to a while yet.
Oh, and the women's 7s rugby at half time was tops.
For the tahs, geez some really good patches and phases but too many mistakes leading to easy points. I thought Ryan was excellent, not too many other tahs didnt have some part of the game to regret even though most of the team had good involvements at times. Take Betham, looked to be gold plated in the first half but looked a bit of a dunce in the second, he stopped working off the ball and got caught flat footed a few times plus dropped the bomb etc.
Overall, I thought the difference between the teams was the benches, we lost intensity and momentum as the changes were made the cheetahs didn't.
Where do we go from here? Just keep plugging away I guess, if we can get the errors down then anything is possible but it seems the work in progress label will be with us to a while yet.
Oh, and the women's 7s rugby at half time was tops.
Richo
John Thornett (49)
Matt Lucas is looking pretty good right now and he's a lot less far away.
GaffaCHinO
Peter Sullivan (51)
What was the crowd like?
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Richo
John Thornett (49)
"Crowd" isn't really an accurate word. I'd go with "collection of scattered folk vaguely aware of their impending humiliation".
Tangawizi
Peter Fenwicke (45)
This result, in all honesty is an absolute shocker for Australian Rugby.
Georgina Robinson can try and butter it up however she likes but it's still sh^thouse to be getting rolled at home by the Cheetahs. http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...atahs-suffer-another-loss-20130315-2g6m7.html
Everything about it shows how far the Tahs have fallen over the past few seasons. No crowd, no result and racking up a 3rd consecutive loss to a side they should have beaten every time.
The other 2 Tahs losses were to be fair, expected but tonight is just not good enough.
Tahs Grand Final is now next weekend. Lose to the Blues and they can kiss the 2013 Finals series goodbye.
Georgina Robinson can try and butter it up however she likes but it's still sh^thouse to be getting rolled at home by the Cheetahs. http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...atahs-suffer-another-loss-20130315-2g6m7.html
Everything about it shows how far the Tahs have fallen over the past few seasons. No crowd, no result and racking up a 3rd consecutive loss to a side they should have beaten every time.
The other 2 Tahs losses were to be fair, expected but tonight is just not good enough.
Tahs Grand Final is now next weekend. Lose to the Blues and they can kiss the 2013 Finals series goodbye.
Richo
John Thornett (49)
Well, as awful as it was to lose at home to the Cheetahs yet again, the truly frustrating thing was to watch the Waratahs put it all together for certain passages and then utterly fall apart for others. At times (mostly Paddy Ryan or Peter Betham times), the Tahs looked like putting it all together. At others, it was like they met on Wednesday and didn't much like each other. My main takeaway was that they continue to be slow and inaccurate at the breakdown. Unless they get offload ball, they seem to end up struggling to retain possession. Similarly, on defense, they couldn't slow Cheetah possession and fell off far too many tackles. While I think the Tahs might be a bit better, the Cheetahs put together a lot more game and were deserved winners.
Next week will be tough.
McKibbin has to go. Spoiled opportunities but its the unpredictability that is the larger problem. Runners never know where the ball is going. Timani isn't cutting it and Horne was poor, even for a comeback player.
It's gonna be a long season, but I reckon Cheika is giving that off-contract list an ecumenical degree of attention.
Next week will be tough.
McKibbin has to go. Spoiled opportunities but its the unpredictability that is the larger problem. Runners never know where the ball is going. Timani isn't cutting it and Horne was poor, even for a comeback player.
It's gonna be a long season, but I reckon Cheika is giving that off-contract list an ecumenical degree of attention.
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Moono75
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you couldn't see that there wer F all people there with your own eyes. Thank god we dodged that bullet with Cheika. Vern we forgive you...good call on Foley.
Richo
John Thornett (49)
Whatever this says, I disagree with it.
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Moono75
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Exaplanation:
There weren't that many people in attendance at the game.....poor crowd figures, especially given the population of NSW and status as a rugby State.. Obviously rugby on a Friday is Sydney rates below cleaning the toilet at your own home whilst Face Booking how great cleaning your toilet is on a Friday night.
Cheika has been talked up massivley in the press and so far the Tahs still look like....well the same old Tahs. Foley has been blamed for everything that is probalby systematically bad in NSW rugby.
Maybe the Tahs will kick on and do something for the rest of the year but with the resources you have...seriously someone should be fired.
Brumbies Guy
John Solomon (38)
You lost to the Kings, and every other game you've played this year. I wouldn't get too carried away trying to rub it into the Tahs just yet.
p.Tah
John Thornett (49)
I'd give my house for Cheika over Foley. The reason we sit in this quagmire sits firmly with M Foley. Although he has learnt and will help the Force he is persona non grata over here.
qwerty51
Stirling Mortlock (74)
It's Foley's squad. Only next year will Cheika get his squad.
Scott Allen
Trevor Allan (34)
Qwerty - who should be let go? Or who should be retained?
Sidbarret
Fred Wood (13)
Australian teams, the waratahs in particular, might do well to show the Cheetahs a little more respect. Since the start of last season they have 4-1 record against Australian side and the one loss came off a pretty controversial set of penalties late in the game.
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Moono75
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You are missing the point. What I am saying is the Tahs are pissing their money away. Resources versus performance...and to a large extent...reputation of players that don't deliver.
At the leat the Force are moving in the right direction. You can see the good, the bad and where they have corrected the performance. I like the Tahs....I have supported the Tahs....I like the tradition. I don't like there tradition of accepting mediocrity when they should be leading the way.
Richo
John Thornett (49)
So true, even intuiting all the failed predictive text... I guess...
Meh.
We've already penciled in you blokes as an "at least it can't get this bad" win. Happy to eat it if I'm proven wrong.
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