Waratahs vs Cheetahs Super Rugby-R5 2013
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Paradox
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Gee, I hope the Tahs can win some lineout ball. 
Not many options for Ulugia to throw out and he isn't the strongest thrower. Tahs to take quick throws as much as possible. Folau will run everything. Could be a cracking match.
Not many options for Ulugia to throw out and he isn't the strongest thrower. Tahs to take quick throws as much as possible. Folau will run everything. Could be a cracking match.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
What so they can throw it on the ground at he halfs feet and be can throw an interception?Gee, I hope the Tahs can win some lineout ball.
We're better of without the ball!
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But the Cheetahs were horrible the week before.
I think the Tahs should win this. The Cheetahs are a very hot-and-cold side, and feed off opposition mistakes. They beat the Highlanders comfortably despite having hardly any possession, and also the Clan played like shit.
It might be close though, and I do agree 3.65 is overs.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
I actually thought the Cheetahs were good in the first half against the Chiefs. The Chiefs defense did a great job of holding them out in the first half and the Cheetahs ultimately fell apart. They appeared to have addressed their defensive frailties last week. I think this game will be close but at $3.65 the Cheetahs are great value.
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Cyril Towers (30)
Cheetahs unchanged from last week:
15 Hennie Daniller, 14 Willie le Roux, 13 Johann Sadie, 12 Robert Ebersohn, 11 Raymond Rhule, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Sarel Pretorius, 8 Philip van der Walt, 7 Pieter Labuschagne, 6 Frans Viljoen, 5 Francois Uys, 4 Lodewyk de Jager, 3 Lourens Adriaanse, 2 Adriaan Strauss (captain), 1 Trevor Nyakane.
15 Hennie Daniller, 14 Willie le Roux, 13 Johann Sadie, 12 Robert Ebersohn, 11 Raymond Rhule, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Sarel Pretorius, 8 Philip van der Walt, 7 Pieter Labuschagne, 6 Frans Viljoen, 5 Francois Uys, 4 Lodewyk de Jager, 3 Lourens Adriaanse, 2 Adriaan Strauss (captain), 1 Trevor Nyakane.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Well, those are sound tactics when playing the Tahs.
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to quote one of our coaches when we discussed the above mentioned side ' it's just re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It will be a kick a thon with Barnes back in. I'll be re-arranging my sock drawer for this match, it will be far more exciting'.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
But Belly, would you have been happier if they just ran out the same team again this week and admit they are doomed to failure whatever they do. This is a very curious position.
As for Barnes, he has it in him to run and play attacking - see the Sharks game from last year. Whats improtant is what the players around him are doing.
Back to Fatprop's question from a few pages ago, I'll be out there looking down my nose at the game while discussing the movers from Friday's stock market, bemoaning the federal labour government and asking those around me to keep the noise down. Hopefully there are plenty of others to drown me out for a change.
As for Barnes, he has it in him to run and play attacking - see the Sharks game from last year. Whats improtant is what the players around him are doing.
Back to Fatprop's question from a few pages ago, I'll be out there looking down my nose at the game while discussing the movers from Friday's stock market, bemoaning the federal labour government and asking those around me to keep the noise down. Hopefully there are plenty of others to drown me out for a change.
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Dick Tooth (41)
I know the above is slightly tounge in cheek but i'd almost prefer this to the guy I sat beside in Canberra. Spent 80 minutes telling every Tah player they were shit and the management they were rubbish, now I'm all for bemoaning mistakes and strategy but if your not going to get behind the team during the game just don't say anything. Leave the criticism for after the game.
Lindommer and I were going to meet at the Local Taphouse for a couple of beers prior to the game. You're welcome to join us (or anyone else for that matter).
I should get there around 6pm or a little after.
I can't go out after the game as I have my cricket semi-final starting Saturday morning.
sounds good see you there
Richo
John Thornett (49)
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Johnnie Wallace (23)
I don't like the centre pairing at all.
We now have a 12 that doesn't like to take on the line, and when he does rarely breaks or bends it.
Our outside centre has a serious passing problem, he doesn't.
For a while now, opposition teams have rushed AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at 13 and closed down the backline. A ball playing 13 loves being rushed as being a target opens other opportunities for the players either side of him. If he can pass that is.
In this backline where is the sparkle, where is the blistering acceleration or the bone jarring crash balling? You need this to create space and while the back three offer promise, they will probably get little ball and probably even less space.
We now have a 12 that doesn't like to take on the line, and when he does rarely breaks or bends it.
Our outside centre has a serious passing problem, he doesn't.
For a while now, opposition teams have rushed AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at 13 and closed down the backline. A ball playing 13 loves being rushed as being a target opens other opportunities for the players either side of him. If he can pass that is.
In this backline where is the sparkle, where is the blistering acceleration or the bone jarring crash balling? You need this to create space and while the back three offer promise, they will probably get little ball and probably even less space.
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Dick Tooth (41)
So how does everyone reckon this game will pan out? Tahs are definitely vulnerable at lineout time, although I think the scrum will hold up well. Need the backrow in particular to step up and give McKibben quicker ball to get the backline going. Foley and Barnes will need options in attack, the back 3 have to get involved coming late into the line at pace. I’ve yet to see Folau take a ball at full pelt, with a guy of his physicality we need to see this more often. Also we need more variation; inside balls, chips through, committing the defence before passing etc.
Too many “ifs” to back the Waratahs at the minute so I’ll have to go with the Cheetahs by 7.
Too many “ifs” to back the Waratahs at the minute so I’ll have to go with the Cheetahs by 7.
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Cyril Towers (30)
Out of curiosity, who in the Tahs squad would you throw in as the centre pairing? Perhaps a combination of 10 - Foley, 12 - Volavola, 13 - Izzy and adopt the "hopefully we'll score more tries than we'll concede" mentality? Who is the alternative to AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at 13? Horne? Is he a significantly better passer/crash baller than AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)? Would you keep Tom Carter at 12? He's been pretty dynamic. I would argue that half the reason AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) hasn't been a factor so far is that he's been playing outside TC.
I just don't see any clearly better alternatives than what Cheika has thrown out this week?
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Jim Lenehan (48)
But failing to get the most out of the talents they have is what the Waratahs do best
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